What is your Biggest Pet Peeve

Originally Posted by Thesandstonefiles

Speaking of 50 yard range.

The farking Fudd's that crowd the range before hunting season. They come in with tons of gear. Set up spotting scopes. Take forever. Bullshit with each other over how big of a buck they are going to bag, shoot five rounds, and then take forever to leave.

I don't have anything against hunting but these guys kill me. Lol

Imagine how they fell when some tacticool warrior princess shows up with a noisy black rifle that you can't deer hunt with, while wearing 511 pants and a 3% tee shirt and a plastic pistol. The one time a year they show up and the inconsiderate pecker-poo rushes them out of the lane.

Just wait until next Tuesday when I show up with my sons new front stuffer...talk about slow.

Speaking of Fudds hogging the range: there is one guy that I run into at the range all the time. He's never there unless all the benches are full, and he literally will fire ONE shot, remove his ear muffs and glasses, take about five minutes looking at that one shot through his spotting scope, then he'll write something down, take another gander through his spotting scope, put his glasses and ear muffs back on, and fire another shot...

I was anxious to sight in a new AR one time and decided to wait him out. I think the guy literally took over an hour to fire five shots before I finally gave up and left. If cold hard stares of "hurry up" could kill that man would be six feet under.

The idiot trying to defend his hipoint-lorcin-mini 22 revolver purchase with "Well, if its that shitty, why don't you stand in front of it?"
Well dumbass, my F250 is a shitty carry weapon also, you wanna stand in front of it genius?

Fit and Finish.
Yep, that means a lot on the ole delton. But hey, if that's all its got, run with it baby.

The luddite retard who recommends a Single Shot .22 or a revolver as a first weapon because "That AK-AR-Glock, ain't summthin you beginners wanna start out on. Yous gotta learn the fundermentals first."
Hey asshole, why don't you tell that to the Somali 8 year old with the AK, Or the 13 year old GDOG in Chicago with the Glock. Here let me rephrase that for you...

"I think you're a goddamn retard, probably dangerous too, but definitely to damn stupid to figure something out that children and random Army boots figure out easily. So we're gonna start you out with a pointy stick. After you have the pointy stick "Platform" down, we will fire harden it. After a few years of pointy stick, club, and then metaley kinda of stuff,we'll work up to a Brown Bess, a real Military weapon."

ATF Agents doing their own interpretations of what you can or cannot sell regarding lowers.

First time to a rather new gun store, had a 308 Lower in mind and was about to buy the damn thing. Had a stock on it from the factory so it couldn't be built into a pistol. Ask to purchase it, and was going through the process while the counter guy said "Can't do it, you are 19, you have to be 21 to purchase this." Went through the entire damn staff debating this in a very calm manner, and they all said the same thing, "Our ATF agent interpreted the law as 'a lower, even if it has the stock, requires the minimum age of 21 to purchase.'"

The Owner of the place however, helped me regardless and in the end, he really did make my day. Also, screw you ATF agent for being a special snowflake, same goes to you ATF.

Originally Posted by Valintina

ATF Agents doing their own interpretations of what you can or cannot sell regarding lowers.

First time to a rather new gun store, had a 308 Lower in mind and was about to buy the damn thing. Had a stock on it from the factory so it couldn't be built into a pistol. Ask to purchase it, and was going through the process while the counter guy said "Can't do it, you are 19, you have to be 21 to purchase this." Went through the entire damn staff debating this in a very calm manner, and they all said the same thing, "Our ATF agent interpreted the law as 'a lower, even if it has the stock, requires the minimum age of 21 to purchase.'"

The Owner of the place however, helped me regardless and in the end, he really did make my day. Also, screw you ATF agent for being a special snowflake, same goes to you ATF.

Actually, a lower with a rifle stock can legally be built into a pistol. The lower does not become a rifle or pistol until a rifle or pistol upper is installed on it. You can legally make an AR pistol out of an AR lower as long as you remove the rifle stock prior to assembling with a pistol upper

Originally Posted by MistWolf

Actually, a lower with a rifle stock can legally be built into a pistol. The lower does not become a rifle or pistol until a rifle or pistol upper is installed on it. You can legally make an AR pistol out of an AR lower as long as you remove the rifle stock prior to assembling with a pistol upper

MistWolf: just to make sure someone doesn't misunderstand, that is only so long as the lower has never had a rifle upper on it - once a rifle always a rifle.

Now that would be a good pet peeve - what is the magic that contaminates your lower if a rifle upper isattached to it first? I can understand the regulatory illegality of putting a pistol upper on a lower with a stock on it, you've just constructed an SBR, which is illegal, although it shouldn't be. But, really, what difference does it make whether you putting that pistol upper on a lower that has a carbine buffer tube on it with the stock removed (legal so long as it was constructed as a pistol first) or the same receiver which was constructed as a rifle first? Stupid. And how does the BATFE know what upper you put on first? I picked up three stripped lowers today, I'm making them all pistols first, just to be a good German, they will all be assembled as rifles, but that 'magic' step somehow cleanses the receivers making it legal for me to put my pistol upper on any of them as long as I remove the stock before doing so.

And we, as a Nation, sent men to the moon, yet we put up with this stupidity? Duh.

Originally Posted by Valintina

ATF Agents doing their own interpretations of what you can or cannot sell regarding lowers.

First time to a rather new gun store, had a 308 Lower in mind and was about to buy the damn thing. Had a stock on it from the factory so it couldn't be built into a pistol. Ask to purchase it, and was going through the process while the counter guy said "Can't do it, you are 19, you have to be 21 to purchase this." Went through the entire damn staff debating this in a very calm manner, and they all said the same thing, "Our ATF agent interpreted the law as 'a lower, even if it has the stock, requires the minimum age of 21 to purchase.'"

The Owner of the place however, helped me regardless and in the end, he really did make my day. Also, screw you ATF agent for being a special snowflake, same goes to you ATF.

Same thing happened to me. Bought a built lower a month before turning 21 and the gun store owner said he couldn't transfer it to me until then.

Originally Posted by 26 Inf

MistWolf: just to make sure someone doesn't misunderstand, that is only so long as the lower has never had a rifle upper on it - once a rifle always a rifle.

Now that would be a good pet peeve - what is the magic that contaminates your lower if a rifle upper isattached to it first? I can understand the regulatory illegality of putting a pistol upper on a lower with a stock on it, you've just constructed an SBR, which is illegal, although it shouldn't be. But, really, what difference does it make whether you putting that pistol upper on a lower that has a carbine buffer tube on it with the stock removed (legal so long as it was constructed as a pistol first) or the same receiver which was constructed as a rifle first? Stupid. And how does the BATFE know what upper you put on first? I picked up three stripped lowers today, I'm making them all pistols first, just to be a good German, they will all be assembled as rifles, but that 'magic' step somehow cleanses the receivers making it legal for me to put my pistol upper on any of them as long as I remove the stock before doing so.

And we, as a Nation, sent men to the moon, yet we put up with this stupidity? Duh.

Which is why I hope the NFA and the 21 age requirement gets abolished. And the ATF get's shut down. DEA can take the AT, FBI takes the F.

Originally Posted by MistWolf

Actually, a lower with a rifle stock can legally be built into a pistol. The lower does not become a rifle or pistol until a rifle or pistol upper is installed on it. You can legally make an AR pistol out of an AR lower as long as you remove the rifle stock prior to assembling with a pistol upper

Great, now I feel like an idiot.

Originally Posted by Valintina

Great, now I feel like an idiot.

You shouldn't. The FFL dealer was correct.

Federal law prohibits the transfer of ANY firearm to those under age twenty one; with the exception that 18 year-olds can purchase rifles and shotguns.

As I understand most receivers are sent/shipped as 'other' and if the FFL entered 'other' on the paperwork you would be rejected because 'other' isn't a rifle or a shotgun.

I actually learned this today in talking with the guys at the LGS as I picked up three stripped lowers I'd had shipped to them.