Thanks guys. I'll have to check this stuff out and see what I want to do.
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Thanks guys. I'll have to check this stuff out and see what I want to do.
I use polymer MBUS rears and either FSBs or DD/LMT fixed fronts on all mine except for the 6.8 which has 4-14 scope on it. Those options meet all my requirements including being relatively inexpensive.
Those using Troy BUIS, do you prefer their Dioptic rear or standard round rear sight?
I sold off my Troys after that debacle myself, amazing how anyone still supports those clowns but then again CTD is still in business. The Troy sights were expensive, locked in the up position, and the way the rear aperture was shaped caused very distracting glare outdoors in the sun. I prefer the Magpul MBUS Pros and KAC 600m rear or detachable carry handle with a fixed FSP. In fact my next rifle will either be a A4 or M4 clone using one of my extra carrying handles I have laying around.
My KAC 2-600s are my favorite out of what I own... they basically do everything a carry handle sight does, only in a small, fold-able package. On a rifle with middy sight radius, they are set up to be 1-700 yard sights. However, the next one I'm going to buy will be the new Spikes Micro. It has consistent incremented elevation clicks just like the KAC, but is a lot slimmer and lower profile. I like to mount my scopes on the low side so I can get solid cheek weld, and only the slimmest irons will clear the ocular housing. I also like how the Spikes has a removable aperture insert. The KAC is a one-size-fits-all aperture, and is a little on the small side for field use. I will probably leave the insert out of the Spikes full time.
I too won't touch anything Troy after everything they pulled. Hiring a former Chicago police chief who was a big anti was bad enough, but the sniper commander from Ruby Ridge?! Really?! It's like they sat down and thought about "who will piss the 2A community off the most?"
I have no issues with Cheaper Than Dirt though. They just followed the laws of supply and demand. I don't get bent out of shape if I think somebody is pricing their stuff too high. I always say if you can buy it cheaper someplace else, then do it. If you can't find it in stock anyplace else, it is a good indication that everyone else is pricing below the market, so that all their inventory is being bought up by scalpers and re-sold at the going market rate.
Last edited by henschman; 10-31-15 at 13:37.
"This motto may adorn their tombs
(Let tyrants come and view):
We rather seek these silent rooms
Than live as slaves to you."
Lemuel Haynes, 1775
All of my Troys were purchased before all of the hiring controversy came about. I'm not going to sell high-quality, functional gear at a loss because they decided to hire morons. However, I choose not to purchase new Troy products for the reasons stated above this post. I really prefer fixed BUIS. LMT or DD rear and Samson fronts are my favorite... and yes, I think the MBUS Pro are slower to deploy. Their slim profile and lack of grabbing surface makes for awkward deployment IMO. On Troy sights at least you have something hanging off the side of the sight so that a simple flick is all that they take to deploy. The same can not be said for MBUS Pro sights. I'm holding out hope that they'll improve the next gen with something to aid in getting those suckers up as quickly as possible.
I'm with ya... I won't get rid of good existing Troy gear because of their policies either... I had a bunch of Battlemags and a FF handguard from them before the scandal broke... but I sure as hell won't be buying any more.
Even on a red dot rifle, I prefer folding irons over fixed just because I like the idea that they will fold instead of break if they get a sharp impact. I definitely like sights that lock down rather than up for the same reason. Also, I don't necessarily prefer metal over polymer... I still remember the drop tests that were done a few years back where the plastic MBUS sights beat everything else in drop testing. By contrast I've seen more than one fixed DD sight that broke or bent when dropped on a hard surface. And if a fixed sight is beefy enough that it isn't damaged in that kind of impact, odds are you will be bending the rail instead (which is worse in my book -- irons are still knocked out of zero, and now a major component of the rifle is damaged).
Deployment time isn't a high concern for me. The odds of even needing to deploy irons are low enough, and the odds of a second or two difference in deployment time mattering just isn't a consideration for me. Worse comes to worse, point shooting isn't completely ineffective until you can get to a place where you can get your optic off and/or deploy irons.
Last edited by henschman; 10-31-15 at 14:14.
"This motto may adorn their tombs
(Let tyrants come and view):
We rather seek these silent rooms
Than live as slaves to you."
Lemuel Haynes, 1775
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