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    Quote Originally Posted by henschman View Post
    I'm with ya... I won't get rid of good existing Troy gear because of their policies either... I had a bunch of Battlemags and a FF handguard from them before the scandal broke... but I sure as hell won't be buying any more.

    Even on a red dot rifle, I prefer folding irons over fixed just because I like the idea that they will fold instead of break if they get a sharp impact. I definitely like sights that lock down rather than up for the same reason. Also, I don't necessarily prefer metal over polymer... I still remember the drop tests that were done a few years back where the plastic MBUS sights beat everything else in drop testing. By contrast I've seen more than one fixed DD sight that broke or bent when dropped on a hard surface. And if a fixed sight is beefy enough that it isn't damaged in that kind of impact, odds are you will be bending the rail instead (which is worse in my book -- irons are still knocked out of zero, and now a major component of the rifle is damaged).

    Deployment time isn't a high concern for me. The odds of even needing to deploy irons are low enough, and the odds of a second or two difference in deployment time mattering just isn't a consideration for me. Worse comes to worse, point shooting isn't completely ineffective until you can get to a place where you can get your optic off and/or deploy irons.
    Selling off my Troy products was easy because I only had the battle sights, didn't have their other products. The Battle sights are good but their rear peep aperture has that angle that makes glare from the sun really distracting. Im partial to A2 sights so naturally I prefer the KAC 600m rear and detachable carry handle but the MBUS pro has been excellent for me too. These three sights are much better than the Troys IMO so selling the Troys wasn't a very difficult decision.

    I'm with you, the MBUS Pro deployment speed isn't a top priority for me either. All its pros (lol) outweighs the slightly slower time it takes to get them up, its possibly only con.

    Regarding CTD, Im very much for free market capitalism so I'm not worried about "price gouging". My main issue is them pulling shit like this http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012...firearm-sales/

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    Magpul MBUS here. No complaints work great with my Aimpoint Pro.

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    I'll probably never buy a Troy product again. There's no way they did not know the stories of those 2 criminals.
    Compared to the rest of the playing field over the last few years, I wouldn't even buy their products if I didn't care about ethics.

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    I'm likely going to cut down my carry handle as soon as I put a red dot on my wife's rifle. For me, I think it's the best way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benito View Post
    I'll probably never buy a Troy product again. There's no way they did not know the stories of those 2 criminals.
    Compared to the rest of the playing field over the last few years, I wouldn't even buy their products if I didn't care about ethics.
    Always the option of buying used since it does not benefit them. I tend to do that with several companies that have decided to give perks to the opposite side like Troy has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawusmc0844 View Post
    Selling off my Troy products was easy because I only had the battle sights, didn't have their other products. The Battle sights are good but their rear peep aperture has that angle that makes glare from the sun really distracting. Im partial to A2 sights so naturally I prefer the KAC 600m rear and detachable carry handle but the MBUS pro has been excellent for me too. These three sights are much better than the Troys IMO so selling the Troys wasn't a very difficult decision.

    I'm with you, the MBUS Pro deployment speed isn't a top priority for me either. All its pros (lol) outweighs the slightly slower time it takes to get them up, its possibly only con.

    Regarding CTD, Im very much for free market capitalism so I'm not worried about "price gouging". My main issue is them pulling shit like this http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012...firearm-sales/
    Also, they weren't following the law of supply and demand.

    They were canceling orders that had already been placed when 223 was normal priced and telling people they could buy it again at the inflated rate.

    I don't recall exactly what happened but my dad had 4000 rounds ordered for him and me and they kept calling him and asking if he wasn't we to cancel the order because they didn't know when ammo would be back in stock again and he said no, leave it on back order and just ship it when you get it. Happened two or three times and after the last time he got an email telling him how CTD was sorry he cancelled his order and that he could reorder it.

    At least that's the gist of what happened. There are some shady clowns in this industry but There is also straight up scum like Troy and CTD. Just my opinion of course.

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    Haven't ordered from CTD S in 15 years when they shafted a co-worker after I had told him that my experiences with them had been positive. Since then the bulk of the reviews I have read about them have been similar jerk around crap.

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    I have a set or PRI'S on one rifle, and run of the mill Magpul Polymers on another. I haven't used either except for zeroing. I can't really tell any difference, but the PRI'S are all metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leuthas View Post
    The highest damage and wear portion of irons tend to be the upper area of either side of the base. I primarily only use Magpul steel irons or KAC's micros, which tend to hold up very well and maintain a low profile, low 'snag' design.

    The ultra-low profile folding irons are a particular advantage when running a rifle mounted RMR as the dedicated optic, on an ultra low base. Some of these irons will fold below the level of the RMR's lens, and while upright will stand tall enough to function above the RMR's guard.
    I've never seen this setup but have wondered about it, any specific examples or pics?

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    and still looking for feedback on the bobros

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