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Thread: Folding Stock Adapter Kit for AR15, can fire repeatedly while stock is folded

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    As long as the stock collapsed enough for me to go ntch I'm good. I prefer having options when it comes to stocks even though I mostly just use standard m4 stocks I like 1 or 2 others.

    My biggest A #1 concern is durability and reliability. I would put something like this on my truck gun or possibly my hd gun, both of which see 2500+ rnds a year of mixed ammo.

    #2 is cost. $500 buy in with proprietary unknown cost replacement parts is kinda off putting.


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    I would prefer to use my own stock. And would want a standard length of pull.

    Like tatertot my biggest concern is durability and reliability. The possibility of a failure would be a deal breaker.

    It has to be almost unbreakable. More pictures and a few hundred in use for I could even consider it.
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    Viper5, read (or listen to) The Art of the Start 2.0 by Guy Kawasaki
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    I'm curious why a right side angled fold instead of a left side parallel fold or even a left side angled fold? The price almost makes it a non-starter for me to begin with. I understand why it costs that much, but between the price of the stock and the price of the rest of the gun with decent enough quality to be afforded a $500 stock would put you well beyond what you could spend for a folding stock AK?

    The last part wasn't directed necessarily at you, I have the same question with the Troy stock. I love the idea and hopefully the execution is also spot on with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    Viper5, read (or listen to) The Art of the Start 2.0 by Guy Kawasaki
    http://ebooks.elportal.info/theartofthestart.pdf
    Nobody ever got shot climbing over the wall into East Berlin.

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    A large amount of shooters extend their collapsible stock too far and simply fail to ever consider using a shorter LOP. With that in mind, I don't think LOP will be a tremendous in-practice issue, however the perception from the less astute potential buyer could be rather negative. If anything, the 'role' of this device in the AR should remain so minimal as possible -- refrain from raising costs by providing your own stock and allow the end user the freedom of choosing their own. Folks can be very picky about their weapon furniture.

    Full disclosure: I am not a fan of folding stocks in any application so I may ultimately be bias.
    Nobody ever got shot climbing over the wall into East Berlin.

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    Thank you all for the feedback on LOP. Our goal remains to give users flexibility and autonomy and I believe we are on track to do doing so.

    Regarding Shadow93:

    I'm curious why a right side angled fold instead of a left side parallel fold or even a left side angled fold? The price almost makes it a non-starter for me to begin with. I understand why it costs that much, but between the price of the stock and the price of the rest of the gun with decent enough quality to be afforded a $500 stock would put you well beyond what you could spend for a folding stock AK?

    The last part wasn't directed necessarily at you, I have the same question with the Troy stock. I love the idea and hopefully the execution is also spot on with it.
    I agree on price comparisons to a folding stock AK. We are targeting a niche market in the beginning that is made up of AR users.

    The product is designed for right handed shooters in mind, although a left handed shooter could still receive value in the product's mobility and concealed transport. When the rifle is folded and attached to a sling that is attached to front right should of a Soldier's (or any user's) body armor or vest the stock has to fold to the right for ease of carry, otherwise the stock would continually bump up against his chest and it wouldn't be comfortable. It is diagonal so that the folding stock does not impede discharging brass while rifle is fired. All that said, the product could easily be mirrored for a left handed shooter in mind if there was demand for such a part. I believe patents are associated with either left or right folds.

    Regarding durability and reliability...it goes without saying that quality of product is the first priority that has trumped concerns over the price/cost to build from the beginning. Based off your feedback, I think the owners are going to put together a video of the rifle firing 500+ rounds consecutively on full auto. When that happens I will post the link to this thread. Also, once reviewers start publishing their due diligence (in print, online, and via video) I think that should also substantiate the claims of quality/durability/reliability made by the company.

    On that note: Would you all (and any others) mind commenting (in addition to comments on the above as well if you like) on what kind of videos you would like to see of the product for your own research? I.e., tutorial, stress test (include specifics), assembly, etc. A lot of footage is being scheduled to film and it would be unfortunate if there was a good idea for a video that DFA doesn't think of.

    Everyone, thank you very much for the initial feedback on this.

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    I'd be interested to see how the stock holds up to malfunction clearing. I have a round stuck in the chamber. Pull the charging handle as the rifle's butt (stock extended) is slammed firmly against the ground.

    How does the bolt handle during double feeds?

    Can you still clear a casing stuck above the bolt carrier inside the charging handle's underside without disassembly?

    Has this bolt assembly been tested under the stresses of a blown case?
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    I'd be interested to see how the stock holds up to malfunction clearing. I have a round stuck in the chamber. Pull the charging handle as the rifle's butt (stock extended) is slammed firmly against the ground.

    How does the bolt handle during double feeds?

    Can you still clear a casing stuck above the bolt carrier inside the charging handle's underside without disassembly?

    Has this bolt assembly been tested under the stresses of a blown case?
    The system has been stress tested on M4 for malfunctions. As intended in design, you can clear malfunctions the same as on a standard M4. Yes, you can still clear a casing stuck above the bolt carrier inside the charging handle's underside without disassembly. Under the stress test using self made reloads on an AR 7" pistol the weapon experienced blown cases (due to reloads). There was no damage to the weapon, just drop the mag and clear the blown cartridge as usual. As you disassemble the rifle there is the extra step of removing the end cap, which is quick and simple (IMHO).

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    Definitely would like to see better pictures.

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