III/IV = Level III standalone or Level IV ICW backers whereas Level IV is just stand alone I assume. I could be wrong though. And I've never heard that second part. Kinda defeats the purpose of stand alone. Though maybe it was specifically meant for steel plates.
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If you are talking about the Velocity P34's about a III/IV ICW, you need both the plate and a backer IOT meet the III or IV threat protection level.
http://www.velsyst.com/store/236/37/...I--IV-ICW.html
from their website
"WARNING: Must be worn In Conjunction With VS-13A Soft Armor to achieve the stated threat level. This plate is certified with Velocity Systems VS-13A Soft armor, and is not tested/certified with other manufacturers' soft armor.
The P34 is NOT a Stand-Alone Plate for ANY threat level. To assume this plate is a "Level III Stand-Alone and Level IV In-Conjunction WIth" is INCORRECT."
Around 200 a plate that stops up to LVL IV and all common AR threats: http://store.appalachiantraining.com...=F1-4400-10x12
That said. Level IV doesn't mean it stops M855 and M193. Level IV means it will stop one round of 30-06 armor piercing ammo. Some companies rate their plates to also stop other rounds so you'll have to research that and see if you trust a given company. Are you really expecting to need to stop 30-06AP? Have you thought if the weight and cost penalty to stop that over just the AR threats you listed is worth it?
There are some great plates that aren't lvl IV but stop the two rounds you list, such as: http://store.appalachiantraining.com...10x12-Shooters or http://www.hesco.com/products/armor/600-series/ (look at the LVL III+). They are more expensive but they are multi curve and much lighter. There is a world of comfort difference when moving to something like this and a GOOD carrier. I spend a year or so wearing 10 lb steel single curve plates in a condor carrier for training while trying to pick my end goal for plates and budget. During that time I spent time with a mayflower APC and Velocity Systems scarab light carrier sporting triple curve ceramics that weighed 5 lb. Your ability to move, go prone, work with endurance and over all comfort is much much better with a good carrier and plates.
Even if you say "its a few pounds I can handle it" remember a loaded AR mag is about 1 lb. So dropping 10lb of plate weight turns into being able to carry 300 extra rounds of ammo, better comms, better med kit, a gallon of water or just move faster. If you are only going to get one set of plates and one carrier don't do steel. The hesco single curve plates from AT will save you nearly 6lb over a set of steel plates with heavy spall coating.
Thanks I appreciate you time to respond. I agree and understand your point 100%
I started looking at a "basic Banshee" PC and digging deeper saw how a Mayflower APC could be slicker and more comfortable for not much more $ so I went with that.
I really wanted to get the lightest plate I could but at a price I could afford they were all single curve or be single curve and 1.25 inches thick.
I decided to go with a known high quality brand after watching many videos on YT and reading about their performance.
They are level IV multi curve and weight 7 lbs each but being my first set of plates I think I did good at 100$ for a "quality ceramic" that stops M855 and M193 rounds.
3+ or 3 that would be lighter and stop those rounds would be 2-3 times more $. If nothing else they would be my training plates and for 200$ they are almost 1/2 price those Ar500 3+ plates!
Again, thanks to all for their words. M4C has helped me to make my decision
Cheers and have a great TG!
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