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Thread: Fire Mission. Defund ATF-41P. It's coming.

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    I met congressman Culbertson today. Had a few minutes. He stated he was aware that 41p was there and would take appropriate action if the ATF pursues implementation.

    He reminded me that he killed the ammo ban.

    Might be worth it to email his office about 41P.

    Tell that firearms lawyer from Texas said to email and cal. Lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by SC-Texas View Post
    Seriously? True colors showing

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    Did you stop reading right there? It wasn't a stand alone statement.

    Context is your friend.
    What if this whole crusade's a charade?
    And behind it all there's a price to be paid
    For the blood which we dine
    Justified in the name of the holy and the divine…

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    Did you stop reading right there? It wasn't a stand alone statement.

    Context is your friend.
    Nope. I read the whole thing. That statement that I quoted shows your logic and that is the logic of someone who is willing and actually wants more background checks on more people and that is anti gun. It's one step in the Brady butchers plan of action and congrats. You are playing along.

    So yes, I completely agree with your statement that context is your friend. Unfortunately, you're trying to hide your call for expanded, universal background checks by claiming context. I am not going to let you get away with that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    I'd have no problem with full BG checks on all trustees and corp. officers who can possess without the primary holder present. So long as the $200 per item fee isn't raised that is. What I really want to see is the need for trusts and corps. eliminated. )
    This is the offensive part. Not Going to bother quoting the part where you show that you clearly lack understanding of what the CLEO sign off does insinuating that the local sheriff's or task but doing background checks. There's sign off has nothing to do with the conduct of a background check.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson1911 View Post
    How come removal of silencers was not added to the omnibus that was just signed ?
    Because that is dead on arrival. Is easier to simply defund a capricious ruling of the BATF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorizo View Post
    You're right. I missed one.

    And that one didn't even need to be in there. They had the votes to stop it.

    It did, however, include:

    $60 million more for NICS
    * $58.5 million for states to submit NICS records- "There is no registry" YEAH, RIGHT!
    * $70 million more for the ATF.

    Chorizo, I don't mean this as an argument with you, I just don't want people thinking that the omnibus is anything other than another example of the fact that the majority of Republicans are not conservative and will sell us out in a snap!

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    So 70 million to the ATF, isn't it safe to say that they got the funding needed for 41p now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    So 70 million to the ATF, isn't it safe to say that they got the funding needed for 41p now?
    Depends how it's appropriated

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    So 70 million to the ATF, isn't it safe to say that they got the funding needed for 41p now?
    Not just 70 million, 70 million MORE!

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    4% "real" increase of their total budget...

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