Eotech EXPS3 initial Cold Weather test

**Ryno12** · 12-18-15, 21:48

You can pretty much guarantee that the majority of people seeking a refund never had an issue with the zero.

I'm guessing the majority just want to offload their RDS for retail value.
Others are just flaking out about EOTech going out of business or saying they can't "trust" the optic anymore.

**Ryno12** · 12-18-15, 21:58

Originally Posted by mack7.62

Let me see, the company lied, committed fraud, covered up and built iffy sights but still has happy end users. Well I hope when they finally fail it will not be at a time when they are truly needed but knowing Murphy.......

What problems did you personally have with yours?

**madisonsfinest** · 12-18-15, 22:12

My department dropped them from our approved list. It's worthless to me if I can't mount it

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**ZGXtreme** · 12-19-15, 00:44

Originally Posted by madisonsfinest

My department dropped them from our approved list. It's worthless to me if I can't mount it

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Same. I'd have kept my 553 but now that's it's prohibited due to liability issues I have no option but to return it to fund an approved replacement.

**Etho** · 12-19-15, 00:58

I used a 512 for a very long time until I switched to a EXPS2-2. Never had a problem with it either. That was until this past August. Both shut down on me in about 90-95 degree weather. Changed batteries, still nothing. Came back on after about an hour or so. If there was zero shift, it was negligible. That being said, before it came out they lied...whatever, they discovered a defect therefore fix my sights and I continue on with life. Knowing they lied and it's been an ongoing issue and essentially covered up? The hell with that, why should I trust them especially when I've had the very problem that was described in all this debacle? Minus the zero shift of course. Which mine could've shifted. I didn't bag it and check nor did I throw it in a rest to see. I had no idea it was a problem until recently, just thought it was some weird fluke.

I even contact Eotech and they played it all off telling me to send it in to be looked over by their people. I even think they used the words "very interested in this problem" in the email. **** them. They knew exactly what the problem was at the time they replied and typed a reply suggesting they were shocked that I typed that email regarding not just one but two of my sights. I may even still have the emails.

My EXPS was on my work rifle. The last thing I need is that thing to shut down and shift zero on me or shift period and me not know about it doing so. Therefore, it went back. Call me a freeloader, I really don't care. They lied, even played it off directly to me prior to this going public and I don't feel the least bit guilty about getting my money back from those shills.

**wolf_walker** · 12-19-15, 02:46

I just wanna know where I can buy one of those returned sights cheap, surely they aren't just going to junk em all.

**mack7.62** · 12-19-15, 06:53

Originally Posted by Ryno12

What problems did you personally have with yours?

Ha, you got me, Aimpoint guy here never owned one. But how does that change the facts? The U.S. military seems to have had problems and the company was caught covering up. You are defending a substandard optic that has had issues for years made by a company that had no problem not telling our warfighters that their shiny new sight might not work when needed. The fact that L3 is buying them all back with no questions asked speaks volumns about the whole matter. The diehard fanboy thing is getting pretty old, if they do release the returns you can bet it will be as an airsoft product with a big disclaimer "Not for duty or self defense use".

**b2dap1** · 12-19-15, 07:09

I run Aimpoints so I have no dog in this fight. My buddies that do have Eotech's are taking this opportunity to fix their original mistake and finally get an Aimpoint! They haven't had any problems but I preach the battery life thing and they are starting to listen. If they Eotechs never had any of these problems and just suffered from their Fisher Price battery life I say they are still worthless for defending your life. Im sure some may not agree but the battery life and auto turn off are deal breakers for me.

I would also love to see a torture test on the Eotech mimicking the LAV/DD Aimpoint test where they blew the glass out of the Aimpoint and the red dot was still there and on zero. Just curious to see.