Eotech EXPS3 initial Cold Weather test

[KalashniKEV]

You can find the above on eotechlawsuit.com

MM

Eeeeeww... I feel dirty for even clicking there.

Anyway, my EOtechs have all been rock solid and never exhibited any zero shift... even through two years in Iraq getting bumped, knocked, dinged, cooked, and chilled.

I did have two failures- one due to corrosion of the terminals (simple fix) and one due to the bumper going bad (simple fix).

I hope to see the turn-in sights resold at a discount.

[Mysteryman]

Eeeeeww... I feel dirty for even clicking there.

Anyway, my EOtechs have all been rock solid and never exhibited any zero shift... even through two years in Iraq getting bumped, knocked, dinged, cooked, and chilled.

I did have two failures- one due to corrosion of the terminals (simple fix) and one due to the bumper going bad (simple fix).

I hope to see the turn-in sights resold at a discount.

Classic example of how your experience somehow trumps what the manufacturer has admitted to regarding the failings and shortcomings of their products. I'm confident that Eotech and NSWC are a little more knowledgeable about the issues with Eotech sights than likely anyone else.

MM

[Wake27]

Classic example of how your experience somehow trumps what the manufacturer has admitted to regarding the failings and shortcomings of their products. I'm confident that Eotech and NSWC are a little more knowledgeable about the issues with Eotech sights than likely anyone else.

MM

Give it a ****ing rest guy. We get it. EOTech said they have issues after the military exposed them. If users haven't experienced any issues and want to keep them, that's their decision and you don't need to argue every one individually.


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[Ryno12]

Classic example of how your experience somehow trumps what the manufacturer has admitted to regarding the failings and shortcomings of their products. I'm confident that Eotech and NSWC are a little more knowledgeable about the issues with Eotech sights than likely anyone else.

MM

Why do you care so much? Certainly, numerous people never had a problem with their EOTech & are content with keeping them. Whatever their reason may be; that's their prerogative, not yours or anyone else's.
Everyone has heard your stance on the subject. Now, seriously... let it go.

[Mysteryman]

Give it a ****ing rest guy. We get it. EOTech said they have issues after the military exposed them. If users haven't experienced any issues and want to keep them, that's their decision and you don't need to argue every one individually.


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The same could be said for the fanboys who still believe their Eotech to be a properly functioning unit. I don't care if people want to keep them, so why do people feel the need to tell everyone else that they are keeping them? All the fanboy posts about Eotech sights being awesome are nothing more than self reassurance that the optic they have invested in emotionally is a good one. By posting it publicly it solidifies that belief in their mind. The truth is that they are not good optics and the fanboy posts are fooling no one.

Eotech sights are flawed, this has been proven and admitted to by Eotech. This is fact. Personal experiences and beliefs are not fact. When people stop trying to convince others(and themselves) that their optic is perfectly functional and that Eotech didn't lie to make a dollar, then there will be no need to point out their ill informed non factual opinions.

MM

[Wake27]

The same could be said for the fanboys who still believe their Eotech to be a properly functioning unit. I don't care if people want to keep them, so why do people feel the need to tell everyone else that they are keeping them? All the fanboy posts about Eotech sights being awesome are nothing more than self reassurance that the optic they have invested in emotionally is a good one. By posting it publicly it solidifies that belief in their mind. The truth is that they are not good optics and the fanboy posts are fooling no one.

Eotech sights are flawed, this has been proven and admitted to by Eotech. This is fact. Personal experiences and beliefs are not fact. When people stop trying to convince others(and themselves) that their optic is perfectly functional and that Eotech didn't lie to make a dollar, then there will be no need to point out their ill informed non factual opinions.

MM

Sure, whatever you say.


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[Digital_Damage]

The same could be said for the fanboys who still believe their Eotech to be a properly functioning unit. I don't care if people want to keep them, so why do people feel the need to tell everyone else that they are keeping them? All the fanboy posts about Eotech sights being awesome are nothing more than self reassurance that the optic they have invested in emotionally is a good one. By posting it publicly it solidifies that belief in their mind. The truth is that they are not good optics and the fanboy posts are fooling no one.

Eotech sights are flawed, this has been proven and admitted to by Eotech. This is fact. Personal experiences and beliefs are not fact. When people stop trying to convince others(and themselves) that their optic is perfectly functional and that Eotech didn't lie to make a dollar, then there will be no need to point out their ill informed non factual opinions.

MM

They get it already...

You have no personal or monetary investment here. Eotech has stated there are issues, if people have not experiencing it and are willing to roll the dice by keeping theirs it is none of your business.

They understand the risk, if you were trying to inform them that is one thing.

You are now just attacking each person individually.

IMO there is no "perfect" holo or red dot on the market right now. If there was even slight competition in the holo realm I think you would see people switching without question, right now those people are stuck with no options.

[ST911]

If you like your Eotech, you can keep your Eotech.
If you like your refund, you can get your refund.

Otherwise, take a deep breath. It's an internet discussion.

[Kdubya]

They get it already...

You have no personal or monetary investment here. Eotech has stated there are issues, if people have not experiencing it and are willing to roll the dice by keeping theirs it is none of your business.

They understand the risk, if you were trying to inform them that is one thing.

You are now just attacking each person individually.

IMO there is no "perfect" holo or red dot on the market right now. If there was even slight competition in the holo realm I think you would see people switching without question, right now those people are stuck with no options.

Thank you! I'm new to the forum as a "poster". I can officially say, the ad hominem attacks are just as annoying on the sideline as they are in person. It seems the guy that's the most pissed off doesn't even own an eotech. I get making an argument for one product vs another, but no need to make it personal. Like I said in a previous post, if something works for your intended purpose, someone else criticizing it doesn't make it a bad choice. I have a sightmark m-spec. I acknowledge exactly what it is, and it does what I need it to. The response I get "it's garbage". I'm not getting dropped into Ramadi any time soon, and odds are the rest of us aren't either. So it's really not that big a deal. Same goes for the people sticking with eotech. They certainly have a problem on their hands as a company. But, it doesn't mean it's going to effect everyone that owns one. If you haven't had issues, great! If you have, you can now get it resolved, and decide where to go from there. At the end of the day they've made a product that has served our men and women well. One can get pissed at them for covering up and issue, I get that. Attack the person for sharing their opinion, weak.

I agree with you Digital. There is no perfect sight, aside from whatever MM runs of course. So no use in getting all bent out of shape over other people's choices. I selected mine for a given application, and others likely did the same. I'm happy with mine, and hopefully others are satisfied with theirs. If not, I'll be glad to share my experience with what I run. Pros, cons, and advice for application. We can't do all the research and trial and error on our own. So let's stop bitching like little children and do something constructive with our opinions.

[tom12.7]

What many do not seem to get is that the entire platform of the system is constantly fluid and evolving in ways that all of us want to be positive in general at least.
When issues arise, the market, be it contract or commercial will favor a system that introduces lesser issues in favor of gains. The source generator (the business) responds by improving product if they choose to stay in that market. That does not mean that prior generations of product is "bad" or "defective by design". Issues come up with all things in times, a better mouse trap eventually happens. Look at generational changes in 1X sights over the years, there is continuous improvement. The continuous evolution has been raising the bar, I hope it continues to do so.