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    That's sad news. I have always liked Stag Arms products. Here's hoping a buyer can be found quickly and a new FFL and manufacturing license issued ASAP In their name.

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    Yeah, this sucks for any manufacturer. Maybe they will get bought out.....maybe even get rid of the deer head logo.

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    In 1776, there weren't any serials on anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7.62NATO View Post
    In 1776, there weren't any serials on anything...
    Excellent point.

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    So how do you have 3000 unserialized machine gun receivers... Unless they were assembled with full auto parts?

    I'm suspicious that it's just AR receivers inaccurately reported.

    Hate to see a US mfg go down for paperwork, even if serious. Took down Sabre on similar. Not defending either, but at times the BATF can be aggressive in enforcement. Does sound like Stag got sloppy though.

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    The law was changed and it's been that way for several decades. If you want to be in the game, you need to play by the rules it's that simple.

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    In 1776, there weren't any serials on anything...



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    ATF investigators found that more than 3,000 gun receivers --the part of the gun that includes the trigger and firing mechanism--were not properly registered, violating the National Firearms Act. Federal agents also discovered a total of 62 fully automatic machine guns and machine gun receivers which were either registered somewhere else or not registered at all.

    First off, you have to dissect this whole thing. Remember that reporters and media know next to jack shit. The 3000 firearms receivers were most likely not any kind of NFA violation, but most likely they did not record the serial numbers correctly or at all. The other 62 receivers mentioned could have been anything. Most people are unaware that once the sear pin hole is drilled that receiver is now considered a machine gun. Prior to that happening you must submit a Form 2 to the BATFE.

    If they cannot account for those receivers they have big issues. In fact, most people will tell you that many dealers get shut down for sloppy record keeping and losing inventory which is why Red Jacket lost their FFL several years back. Vince and then later Joe and Charlie were the ones who were holding the FFL until everything imploded.

    Quote Originally Posted by pinzgauer View Post
    So how do you have 3000 unserialized machine gun receivers... Unless they were assembled with full auto parts?

    I'm suspicious that it's just AR receivers inaccurately reported.

    Hate to see a US mfg go down for paperwork, even if serious. Took down Sabre on similar. Not defending either, but at times the BATF can be aggressive in enforcement. Does sound like Stag got sloppy though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 556BlackRifle View Post
    I agree. Wouldn't it be great if we could hold bureaucrats and politicians to the same standards.....
    Eric Fast & Furious Holder is allowed to remain a free man and practice law making millions in income each calendar year.

    Yeah, that's justice . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7.62NATO View Post
    Had the machine guns been destined for FSA/AQ/Mexico, no prosecution had taken place.
    Took the words right out of my mouth.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7.62NATO View Post
    In 1776, there weren't any serials on anything...
    Great point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    The law was changed and it's been that way for several decades. If you want to be in the game, you need to play by the rules it's that simple.
    The law has to follow the rules too, i.e. the Constitution.
    Same goes for Holder, Hussein et al, who follow neither their own laws nor the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    Eric Fast & Furious Holder is allowed to remain a free man and practice law making millions in income each calendar year.

    Yeah, that's justice . . .
    That Marxist belongs in maximum security.

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    Where does the Constitution state that a firearm doesn't need a serial number? It doesn't. Everything in the Constitution is subject to some regulation. A serial in no way takes away your right to own or possess a firearm.


    Quote Originally Posted by Benito View Post
    Took the words right out of my mouth.



    Great point.



    The law has to follow the rules too, i.e. the Constitution.
    Same goes for Holder, Hussein et al, who follow neither their own laws nor the Constitution.



    That Marxist belongs in maximum security.



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