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The price of liberty is, always has been, and always will be blood: The person who is not willing to die for his liberty has already lost it to the first scoundrel who is willing to risk dying to violate that person's liberty! Are you free?
--- Andrew Ford
The Constitution doesn't state a lot of things. That doesn't mean they are authorized, particularly when dealing with the federal government vs that of the states'.
Exactly this.
Sure, but your premise is that that they have the grounds to make these particular rules.
No one forced the individual politicians and bureaucrats to become what they became. By getting into the business of government, they agreed to play by the rules - the Constitution.
Well put. We are a nation of laws, not men, but those laws are not merely anything that a men write down. If they were, all tyranny would be justified, as it's justification would rest on pen and paper alone.
I'm not stating that they have the authority to make these laws. They are law and are currently in place, so to hold a license to make or hold the firearms they must be followed or face federal charges. if they deem that is to big a risk then get out the game. They know this everyday, it is not a surprise.
Until we can get these laws change if you could find good standing as why they are unconstitutional that will hold up all the way to SCOTUS, then these remain law.
We are a community that IMO are better than the left as we comprehend and follow these laws more so than any other group of citizen that follow any other laws. We have too, or face federal charges on a daily basis. Until we can get unconstitutional laws off the books. I deem that the NFA is unconstitutional but as a act of rebellion I'm not gonna run out and make SBRs without a tax stamp.
With what we all do, we have to be better and we have to be bigger than anyone who challenges us. Other wise we are the "radical gun owners", the "crazy conspiracy theorist" yet we always bring the facts. We can't afford to be wrong, in any situation.
So sometimes that means compromise and play friendly with the ATF to get what we want, or until we cans get the laws changed.
They could come around and say Heller protect it your right to own a gun, but doesn't protect the right to manufacture it. Then where do we go?
Last edited by JulyAZ; 12-23-15 at 15:22.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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Unfortunately, this can be the result from not following cGMP. Their regulatory and compliance department should have never allowed this.
Any company that does not look into cGMP and comply with that is short sighted. Meeting compliance can make a harder case then when they look at cGMP that can exceed that for many purposes beyond this issue.
A Bit more on this from another article;
Stag Arms Pleads Guilty To Violating Federal Firearms Laws; Owner Will Sell Company - Hartford Courant
The government said about 200 firearms could not be accounted for at Stag's John Downey Drive facilities. "We don't know where they are, whether they were stolen, whether they're on the streets, or whether they're just in the wrong hands," Daly said.
The company pleaded guilty to possession of 62 machine guns and machine gun receivers that were registered to another entity or not registered at all. ATF agents found the automatic rifles and receivers at the New Britain factory during an inspection July 15, 2014.
Eleven machine guns were registered to an entity in the Philippines, one to a police department and 25 to another manufacturer. The remaining 25 machine gun receivers — the portion of the firearm that houses the operating parts and on which the serial number is engraved — did not have serial numbers, the government said.
Malkowski told U.S. Magistrate Judge Donna F. Martinez during the company's plea hearing that the machine guns in question were to be sold, but the sales agreement fell through. Stag Arms kept the weapons and failed to update records, he told the judge.
In 2007, ATF inspectors found instances of poor record-keeping, administrative violations and regulatory violations, but worked with Stag to bring it into compliance, said Nealy Earl, area head of industry operations for ATF.
The problems found during the 2014 compliance review at Stag Arms were similar or worse than those found in 2007, prompting the recommendation for criminal action, Earl said. Assistant U.S. Attorney S. Dave Vatti described the new violations as "egregious and systemic."
So having gone through this before, they got caught again and the violations this time were worse than in 2007.
Yeah, they had it coming.
If they care so little about their licence, business or going to jail, how do you think they feel about keeping their Quality Control and Customer Service in order?
No. Can because of ignorance maybe.
Regulate did not mean then, what it means today. Intetent is the key word, and it seems to have been lost lately in reference to the constitution.
"Commerce clause" is typically up there with "separation of church and state"
Last edited by MegademiC; 12-23-15 at 22:05.
No one forced the federal government to do something not specifically listed in it's allowed list of functions.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Find where it is delegated to them. Otherwise we have the following:
“Our government ... teaches the whole people by its example. If the government becomes the lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.” - JUSTICE LOUIS D. BRANDEIS
Creating exemptions for itself does not make it all good either.
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