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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    Salt in the wound but my SIONICS patrol zero mid length gas upper has round handguard caps. Love the middy MOE-SL on it.
    Someone must know what they're doing over there.

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    Can somebody tell me why the MOE-SL need a FSB. I understand you need the caps, but why can't you use a low-pro gas block and the SLs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    Can somebody tell me why the MOE-SL need a FSB. I understand you need the caps, but why can't you use a low-pro gas block and the SLs?
    It doesn't need an FSB, it needs an end cap. Its "dropping in" so the delta ring spring pushes the hand guards forward to be captured by the end cap and the rear is captured by delta ring.

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    *NOTE: The Mid-Length MOE SL Hand Guard is a direct replacement for most factory plastic, two-piece, mid-length hand guards and requires a ROUND front hand guard retaining cap and spring-loaded delta ring. Must be used with triangular A2 front sight assembly with round cap as other gas blocks are not compatible
    ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    Can somebody tell me why the MOE-SL need a FSB. I understand you need the caps, but why can't you use a low-pro gas block and the SLs?
    You could, but I don't see why you would... By the time you've swapped in/made an LPGB, you could have also installed any free float tube you wanted. Once you've taken off a muzzle device and gas block, a barrel nut swap and new handguard install takes no time at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    ?????
    They're referring to the front sight base when they say "triangular A2 front sight assembly." Could've worded it better.

    Edit - Oh, you're asking why Magpul says you need the FSB if it's just the end cap you really need? If so, tonyxcom is right... few rifles have endcaps and a low profile gas block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    ?????
    It's only because you generally see those two parts together. Like you won't see a low pro gas block with either a round or triangle end cap. But as long as you have a delta ring and round front cap you can use the MOE SL hard guards. I suppose your gas block can't be any wider than an FSB but not many are. You'd also have to account for gas port alignment with your gas block when adding an end cap.

    Here is one such example from TOS.
    https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.h...f=126&t=656344
    Last edited by tonyxcom; 12-30-15 at 21:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inebriated View Post
    You could, but I don't see why you would... By the time you've swapped in/made an LPGB, you could have also installed any free float tube you wanted. Once you've taken off a muzzle device and gas block, a barrel nut swap and new handguard install takes no time at all.



    They're referring to the front sight base when they say "triangular A2 front sight assembly." Could've worded it better.
    ....and that is my question.

    As to why use polymer guards? $30 vs $200

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyxcom View Post
    I suppose your gas block can't be any wider than an FSB but not many are.
    Here is one such example from TOS.
    https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.h...f=126&t=656344
    Ok, maybe that's it. Maybe it's the width, shapes of teh blocks vs a regular fsb. Maybe the guard snaps around it somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    Ok, maybe that's it. Maybe it's the width, shapes of teh blocks vs a regular fsb. Maybe the guard snaps around it somehow.
    Looks like there is generous space. (images direct from Magpul website)


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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    Salt in the wound but my SIONICS patrol zero mid length gas upper has round handguard caps. Love the middy MOE-SL on it.
    Thats funny cause we were critised a couple times for using round caps on a middy. Let not forget though, there is no real standard for end caps on a middy. Only Carbine (round w/ M203 Cutouts) and Rifle (triangle). Guess our use of round was due to the onsite psychic we have at the shop.
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