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Thread: FN, Colt, or Bushmaster? Advice please?

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    You will find no love for the Bushmaster here. The materials used in their rifles are sub optimal.

    Colts are known for their quality, reliability, and adherence to the TDP. If this will be the only AR you will ever purchase, buy the Colt and don't look back.

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    Please, Please, Please ... read up and take the council given here. If you value your hard earned money stay away from the Bushmaster. IF those are your only three options available, then go with the Colt. You will not find ONE person on here tell you to skip the Colt or FN and settle on the Bushmaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HanYolo View Post
    Now, eliminating the Bushmaster is a surprise, as many defend them staunchly. I can only assume that it can be eliminated from consideration based on the quality of the other two choices?

    Google Bushmaster on this site. click here...

    Bushmaster is a consumer-grade rifle. It tends to cut more corners and has a demonstrably inferior reputation.

    Colt owns the M16/M4 rifle. It's their technical data package that defines the platform.

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    Last edited by Hmac; 12-30-15 at 18:13.

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    Buy a COlt or FN, they both build rifles for the US government. Stay away from Bushmaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongEnd0fTheGun View Post
    You will find no love for the Bushmaster here. The materials used in their rifles are sub optimal.

    Colts are known for their quality, reliability, and adherence to the TDP. If this will be the only AR you will ever purchase, buy the Colt and don't look back.
    Quote Originally Posted by tgizzard View Post
    Please, Please, Please ... read up and take the council given here. If you value your hard earned money stay away from the Bushmaster. IF those are your only three options available, then go with the Colt. You will not find ONE person on here tell you to skip the Colt or FN and settle on the Bushmaster.
    Clear. I'm eliminating the Bushmaster from consideration. It seems that those who defend Bushmaster were not doing so by comparison. Unless someone has personal experience with an FN or can refer me to a legit, unbiased, professional review, I guess it'll be a Colt.

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    The following was posted recently by C4IGrant and he would know. It's talking about Colt vs FN rifles for civilian sale.

    No as FN cannot use any part of the TDP to make an M4 or A4. FN has to pay a royalty on every M4/A4 they make for the Govt and are not allowed to use ANY of the parts, machinery or knowledge gained from the TDP to sell guns to Civy's.

    So not only are FN AR's more money, but not the same quality.


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    When in doubt, Colt is always the answer.

    http://www.slickguns.com/search/apac...ch/colt%2B6920

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    My preference would be the Colt, although the FN is probably a good carbine. I base this off of my issued M16's while I was in the USMC, and although I never had a Colt M16A4 (don't think Colt made any) I had several M16A2's, and one FN M16A4. Overall I preferred the quality and fit and finish of the Colt's over the one FN that I had. All of them were reliable and well made, but I give the edge to Colt. In particular the Colt GI triggers were noticeably better that the FN GI trigger that I had.

    The Bushmaster is very unlikely to have some key features that make a rifle reliable. You'll probably find the gas carrier key isn't adequately staked (if at all), and the buffer tube castle nut probably also not staked on the Bushmaster. I have a friend who had a Bushmaster that gave him fits with unreliable feeding and extraction issues. Skip that rifle.

    Look at the other two closely and open them up to look at the bolt carrier groups if the store will let you, look for well staked bolts on the gas carrier key. Look at the castle nut that secures the buffer tube, make sure it is staked properly. Pay attention to the quality of machining, look for rough tool marks etc. Dry fire both if possible to see which has the better trigger. If both are totally equal as far as you can tell, then buy the one you like best. Probably can't go wrong with either.

    So long as both the Colt and FN are assembled correctly, the only major difference between the two is the barrel manufacturing method. The Colt is button rifled and chrome lined, and the FN will be cold hammer forged and chrome lined. Both methods can produce an excellent barrel, although the hammer forged unit will give a little bit longer service life although both will have consumed many thousands of $$$ worth of ammo before they need replacement. If you can afford to shoot either one out, you can afford to replace the barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal Dragger View Post
    My preference would be the Colt, although the FN is probably a good carbine. I base this off of my issued M16's while I was in the USMC, and although I never had a Colt M16A4 (don't think Colt made any) I had several M16A2's, and one FN M16A4. Overall I preferred the quality and fit and finish of the Colt's over the one FN that I had. All of them were reliable and well made, but I give the edge to Colt. In particular the Colt GI triggers were noticeably better that the FN GI trigger that I had.

    The Bushmaster is very unlikely to have some key features that make a rifle reliable. You'll probably find the gas carrier key isn't adequately staked (if at all), and the buffer tube castle nut probably also not staked on the Bushmaster. I have a friend who had a Bushmaster that gave him fits with unreliable feeding and extraction issues. Skip that rifle.

    Look at the other two closely and open them up to look at the bolt carrier groups if the store will let you, look for well staked bolts on the gas carrier key. Look at the castle nut that secures the buffer tube, make sure it is staked properly. Pay attention to the quality of machining, look for rough tool marks etc. Dry fire both if possible to see which has the better trigger. If both are totally equal as far as you can tell, then buy the one you like best. Probably can't go wrong with either.

    So long as both the Colt and FN are assembled correctly, the only major difference between the two is the barrel manufacturing method. The Colt is button rifled and chrome lined, and the FN will be cold hammer forged and chrome lined. Both methods can produce an excellent barrel, although the hammer forged unit will give a little bit longer service life although both will have consumed many thousands of $$$ worth of ammo before they need replacement. If you can afford to shoot either one out, you can afford to replace the barrel.
    The FN is button-broached.

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    Colt.

    The FN would be a distant second and i would buy a bat and a sharp stick to use while I saved money to get either of the other two if the bushmaster was the only one in my price range.
    "I pity thou, fools who dost not choose BCM" - King Arthur 517 A.D.

    .OlllllllO.

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