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    Quote Originally Posted by FaxonNathan View Post
    Sounds like a fun rifle. Pics, please!



    Well... nuts. I guess we need to market more.

    Not sure when you got started. You joined this site Feb 2015, I got out of the gun industry in Nov 2014. So haven't paid much attention to it after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damcv62 View Post
    Not sure why so many people are opposed to building a rifle for a class.
    I don't think anyone is opposed to building a rifle for a class, but they want you to get more hands on shooting experience to be able to know what you want.

    My buddy has ran his 10.5 through multiple classes and I'm sure others have as well.


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    This is just my opinion......


    But you already have a TON of money tied up in other guns. You want to start taking classes. NONE of those other rifles are suitable for a class? 3-200 yards isn't that hard for a pretty basic rifle to do. No one is gonna laugh you off the line because your groups are a fraction of an inch larger than their super-duper-noveske-dipped-in-unicorn-tears.

    More over, I would be hesitant showing up to a class with a shiny new rifle. I don't care whose name is stamped on the side. Confidence is gained by doing.
    "Just throw Krylon on it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstalford View Post
    I don't think anyone is opposed to building a rifle for a class, but they want you to get more hands on shooting experience to be able to know what you want.

    My buddy has ran his 10.5 through multiple classes and I'm sure others have as well.


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    Well my thought on it is why waste a class on a rifle that I won't end up using? I feel like I should be training with the rifle I want to be my main rifle. So why waste the $200 or whatever on a class using a rifle that I'll end up changing? I want to be able to take classes both for 100 yards and less, but also out to 600 yards. Is a SR15 with a nightforce 2.5-10x work for that? Or is there a better option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnburglar View Post
    This is just my opinion......


    But you already have a TON of money tied up in other guns. You want to start taking classes. NONE of those other rifles are suitable for a class? 3-200 yards isn't that hard for a pretty basic rifle to do. No one is gonna laugh you off the line because your groups are a fraction of an inch larger than their super-duper-noveske-dipped-in-unicorn-tears.

    More over, I would be hesitant showing up to a class with a shiny new rifle. I don't care whose name is stamped on the side. Confidence is gained by doing.
    It doesn't have to be super shiny, I'm just looking for an idea of what others use, and would suggest. I know it's personal, but I'm sure there are members who have taken many classes and would have suggestions for someone who never has. Like a sling. Never used a sling in a class. So some suggestions have been made, so now I've got something to research. And I appreciate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damcv62 View Post
    I am being receptive to it. I just don't think a MK18 will do what I'm looking for. Not sure why so many people are opposed to building a rifle for a class.
    Because you clearly don't know what you need. You're afraid the MK18 won't do what you're looking for, but you don't actually know if it will. Have you even defined what "it" is you're looking for? Others here have MK18's and go through carbine courses without issue, to include 200-300+ yard shots.
    No one runs a better trigger in their rifles? Everyone runs stock mil spec triggers? I find that hard to believe. Just because it's mil spec doesn't mean there aren't better options out there. :/
    You're going to simultaneously ask a question and then throw out a misguided lecture?

    You can buy whatever you want, but you're not buying skill or experience with it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by damcv62 View Post
    It doesn't have to be super shiny, I'm just looking for an idea of what others use, and would suggest. I know it's personal, but I'm sure there are members who have taken many classes and would have suggestions for someone who never has. Like a sling. Never used a sling in a class. So some suggestions have been made, so now I've got something to research. And I appreciate that.
    Most members here just realize that its the indian and not the arrow. a GI trigger and 16" chrome lined barrel, will get you through ANY general carbine class. The biggest advice you'll get about specifics should be: "use ammo that you know works", "don't bring an unreliable rifle", "bring a back up rifle in the same caliber if you can", "mix gatorade 50/50 with water", "don't be out of shape".

    A good sling. I prefer 2 point.

    Red dot sight

    some way to carry the required amount of mags (changes every class)

    eye pro

    ear pro (most classes require electronic)

    decent pants and a decent belt

    good athletic shoes.

    knee pads. (class specific, but where I live in the desert its a good idea for any dynamic movement)

    Body armor (depends on the class. some require it, while others don't. typically a live fire shoot house thing)
    "Just throw Krylon on it"

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    You've never taken a class, how do you know if you'll "waste" valuable education from a firearms professional because you don't have a shiny new toy to bring along? By all means, buy a SR15 with $2k glass just to make sure you have the most expensive gear of your classmates. As long as you show up with a teachable attitude you'll do just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by damcv62 View Post
    Well my thought on it is why waste a class on a rifle that I won't end up using? I feel like I should be training with the rifle I want to be my main rifle. So why waste the $200 or whatever on a class using a rifle that I'll end up changing? I want to be able to take classes both for 100 yards and less, but also out to 600 yards. Is a SR15 with a nightforce 2.5-10x work for that? Or is there a better option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by damcv62 View Post
    I am being receptive to it. I just don't think a MK18 will do what I'm looking for. Not sure why so many people are opposed to building a rifle for a class.

    No one runs a better trigger in their rifles? Everyone runs stock mil spec triggers? I find that hard to believe. Just because it's mil spec doesn't mean there aren't better options out there. :/
    Nobody is opposed to it per se, but the fact is that you already have suitable rifles for training classes. Money spent putting together a solid rifle with optic could easily eat up enough money to pay for 2-3 classes. I've run classes with a 16" gun with lightweight barrel and Eotech and I've also used an 11.5" gun with a 1-6x. I've run with and without a silencer. You will NOT be unprepared if you show up with your MK18 with a RDS. Or you can go with a low power variable even on your SBR if you want to. Don't believe me? Watch this video:



    My advice is still to take at least one basic class with what you already have and then evaluate how well it worked out and make changes as needed. At that point you'll be making changes based on solid experience rather than speculation.

    As far as the trigger goes, plenty of people here are running better triggers. You can get into a solid trigger from Sionics, ALG, or now BCM for less than $100 or you can pony up ~$200+ for a Geissele SSA or SD-C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inebriated View Post
    Because you clearly don't know what you need. You're afraid the MK18 won't do what you're looking for, but you don't actually know if it will. Have you even defined what "it" is you're looking for? Others here have MK18's and go through carbine courses without issue, to include 200-300+ yard shots.


    You're going to simultaneously ask a question and then throw out a misguided lecture?

    You can buy whatever you want, but you're not buying skill or experience with it.


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    I've stated that I have a range that goes out to 600 yards. So would like to be able to use it. My eyes aren't as great as some, cause trying to shoot out to 600 yards with an aimpoint sure doesn't seem very feasible for me.

    Would you suggest using a sub standard product? Why waste money on taking a class if you don't use a rifle you want to stick with? That doesn't seem to make much sense.

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