New Uppers and a "new" offering from Colt for the FBI

[rocsteady]

I put this in an old thread but thought it was worth it's own.

Bureau is making wholesale changes to their agent issued M4s. Uppers are being replaced with Colt units that have 11.5" (I believe) barrels, Troy alpha rails along with Magpul CTR stocks. Also the upper is shipped with an Aimpoint T2 (replacing their Eotechs) that sits on a Daniel Defense mount. VTAC 2 point slings are common but have seen some others depending on personal preference. Seems to be a very nice shooting, very light setup. Saw it in action first time this week during some range time with the NY office SWAT team.

As an aside they have also introduced a POW (personally owned weapon) AR that is a Colt LE6920, 16" barrel, Troy alpha rails with the allowed accessory list including a Troy lopro QD swivel mount, an inforce white/IR wml, VTAC sling, Magpul CTR stock, Hogue pistol grip and the Aimpoint H1, H2, T1 or T2 and DD mount. Designated the LE6920-FBP1. So side-by-side, it looks like the big brother of the Agent issued SBR. Or would that make it the "little" brother?

I'll post pics when mine arrives. My understanding is it goes from Colt to the armorers at Quantico and then to your field office's range as you must qualify with it before you can take possession. Armorers have to install the grip and the swivel mount and the user, with area's firearms instructor supervision, installs anything else.

(also allowed Troy "squid grips" and Mako PTK, a rather unwieldy looking AFG)

[Beat Trash]

I would be interested to see what your gun looks like when it shows up. The use of the Troy Alpha rail is the only part of the equation that makes me wonder, "why"?

[zackmars]

are magpul afg's allowed? odd that they would go with mako

[rocsteady]

are magpul afg's allowed? odd that they would go with mako

Only the mako AFG is allowed.

[TexasAggie2005]

I would be interested to see what your gun looks like when it shows up. The use of the Troy Alpha rail is the only part of the equation that makes me wonder, "why"?

Maybe because it uses the mil-spec barrel nut, and they got a good deal since everybody seems to be going KeyMod & MLOK rails and the Alpha isn't selling as well?

[dwhitehorne]

Maybe because it uses the mil-spec barrel nut, and they got a good deal since everybody seems to be going KeyMod & MLOK rails and the Alpha isn't selling as well?

I would guess because the idea for the program probably started a few years ago and Troy was one of the main players. Now a few years later when it gets implemented newer stuff has come out but GOV contracting doesn't work that fast. David

[El Cid]

Are you sure the 11.5" uppers are from Colt? I thought the bbls were sourced from a company in Idaho - can't recall the name.

I've already heard that the Troy handguards may get replaced with Geissele but the rumor mill is strong in that agency, so who knows. And whoever chose the Mako grip should be asked to retire immediately.

Here is a photo of one of the POW rifles sent to me by an agent I used to work with who already got his.

[rocsteady]

Now you've got me second-guessing: did I actually see Colt on the upper? I am going out again on the 12th and I'll be sure to verify.

[larryp]

I actually like the simple look of that rifle. I'm in the middle of getting the parts for a build that will be very similar in looks but with a pencil weight barrel.

[MountainRaven]

Are you sure the 11.5" uppers are from Colt? I thought the bbls were sourced from a company in Idaho - can't recall the name.

I've already heard that the Troy handguards may get replaced with Geissele but the rumor mill is strong in that agency, so who knows. And whoever chose the Mako grip should be asked to retire immediately.

Here is a photo of one of the POW rifles sent to me by an agent I used to work with who already got his.

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/z...psqip2mbvn.jpg

Grant (GandRTactical) has what appear to be 11.5" SOCOM contour barrels from Colt which are, according to Grant, made for FBI HRT: Link.

So they may not be the same thing (HRT is apparently running Spuhr mounts for their Micros)... but I would suspect that they might be.