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    Quote Originally Posted by gringop View Post
    Do you have any issues with a close opponent tying you up (blocking your access to the gun) as might happen with a crossdraw. Do you wear it at 1:00, 1:30, 2:00?
    I'd say I carry it somewhere between 1:00 and 1:30.

    The gun doesn't seem any more susceptible to interference than traditional IWB ... just "interfered with" from different angles.

    Any issues with people hugging you and detecting the gun?
    I don't hug. But who bumps bellies when they hug, anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Any idea on holsters that are conducive to appendix carry, even if not necessarily perfect?
    I'm happy with the modified Looper so far. They're under $50 without the heat shield.

    Quote Originally Posted by rharris2163 View Post
    ... but damn is it uncomfortable using the MTAC holster I used in the 4 O'clock position.
    A holster with a traditional IWB cant will be uncomfortable. I've got no experience with the MTAC, but if it can be adjusted for no cant it could work better.

    Quote Originally Posted by PRGGodfather View Post
    Comp-Tac has a dedicated holster for appendix carry, too:
    I had one for a P229R a while back ... I wasn't impressed with the design. It held the gun at an angle resulting in lots of printing, the belt loop's placement makes it difficult to locate the holster where I want, and I'm not willing to use a holster that relies on J-hooks or kydex clips.

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    I like appendix carry, but cannot carry a full sized government model or a doublestack comfortably. A P9 or J is good to go though. One thing no one has touched on is how common it is for people in crowds, like bars, to bump into you. Yet the one side of you they most rarely bump is the front. I have switched almost exclusively to appendix carry in environments like that when possible.

    To my knowledge, in the 3 years I have been carrying regularly the only person that has ever caught me carrying, that did not know I was carrying, was a girl I know who hugged me in a bar. She reached low, which I normally do to keep their hands away from my gun. Nothing came of it. I am in the habit of hugging my lady friends. Appendix holsters would be a problem with the lady friends (full body hugs) but not with family.

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    The protrusion at the bottom of the front clip could poke you in all the wrong places. If I use that rig, I would cut that part off.


    which they recommend to do once you have your postion locked in
    also you can order it with a shortened strut as well...

    the galco scout iwb,i tired it didnt offer me enough firing grip to draw with

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    Appendix carry (IWB-A)

    I have often carried a J-frame at 1 oclock (IWB-A), and a larger handgun at 4 oclock (IWB).

    The J frame, being small and short, is easily concealed and fast to access from IWB-A. It's well suited for those times when the incident is fast evolving, up close and personal. It's also very comfortable to carry the J frame IWB-A, whereas other handguns are not.

    The larger handgun is better concealed and more comfortable at 4 oclock, but it's there if I need to make a longer shot, or run the J frame dry (NY reload).
    Last edited by sff70; 08-14-08 at 09:28. Reason: add info

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    Where does the muzzle point in a seated position if you're carrying appendix?

    I can't notionalize any good way for this to work. Inboard would be pointing at Mr. C&B or your femoral atery.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    Where does the muzzle point in a seated position if you're carrying appendix?

    I can't notionalize any good way for this to work. Inboard would be pointing at Mr. C&B or your femoral atery.
    The last item on Mr. Green's list:

    It's pointing at WHAT? ... yeah, it is. I'd be lying if I said it never bothers me anymore. I am much slower back to the holster now and have stolen a particular technique, more like a process, for putting the gun in the holster each time to minimize the chance of eunuchating myself. With a gun with a positive manual safety (a la 1911) it wouldn't bother me, nor a DAO/TDA gun with an external hammer that I could trap as I holster. But a SFA gun is just sort of, well, a test of self-confidence. And/or luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanB View Post
    I like appendix carry, but cannot carry a full sized government model or a doublestack comfortably.
    Unless body shape & size is a serious limiting factor, my guess is that's more of a holster issue than a gun issue. A good friend of mine who is about 5' 4" can carry a SIG P229 appendix all day long. He is in great physical shape, though, except for being a midget.

    One thing no one has touched on is how common it is for people in crowds, like bars, to bump into you. Yet the one side of you they most rarely bump is the front.
    That's a really good point, and one I'll add to my list of "whys" ... thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    the galco scout iwb,i tired it didnt offer me enough firing grip to draw with
    There's definitely a trick to getting just the right ride height.

    Quote Originally Posted by sff70 View Post
    The larger handgun is better concealed and more comfortable at 4 oclock ...
    When you say "more concealed" do you mean with the same clothing or with clothing more appropriate to 4:00 carry (i.e., open front)? My wardrobe is much less noticeably "ccw-ish" with A-IWB. But if I wear something too tight, with my build (6', 210#, 38" waist) it definitely prints. Of course, if I tried carrying at 4:00 with that same shirt as my only concealment garment, it would print even more. And a big object on the hip looks more like a gun than a bump at the appendix.

    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    I can't notionalize any good way for this to work. Inboard would be pointing at Mr. C&B or your femoral atery.
    Dude, you are exactly right. If you are worried your pistol might spontaneously discharge, definitely do not carry A-IWB. Ernest and I were at lunch a couple weeks ago and we both made that exact comment ... if our M&Ps just "let go" for some crazy reason, we'd probably bleed out before help could arrive. I wonder what the headline would have been ...

    I practiced drawing and holstering really slowly dry-fire for about a week before I tried it live. My primary issue was that I absolutely wanted to be absolutely sure that I absolutely didn't have my finger on or near the trigger unless the gun is horizontal.

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    So the muzzle would go inboard when seated... Ok. I'll have to try this later. I'm just thinking it'd be uncomfortable sitting.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    demi -- Comfort varies a lot from holster to holster. Much like normal IWB, a good holster can actually make it more comfortable than no holster at all ...

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    I once carried a Sig P239 DA/SA in this position for at least 3 years or so, then I started carrying an HK P2000 this way...which I still do.

    I have an average build, and I find this position offers me the best concealment. I especially like it when eating at restaurants (sitting down, getting up), shopping - where I may have to bend down to get something or look at something on a lower shelf...because it doesn't print.

    I notice too it offers better access sitting in a vehicle.

    I do feel more comfortable carrying this way with HK V3 TDA with exposed hammer. Carrying my Glock 19 this way makes me a little more nervous when I'm re-holstering. I guess there's just something about being able to put my thumb on the hammer and knowing the trigger isn't hanging up when I'm holstering it. That's just my experience.

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