Page 52 of 69 FirstFirst ... 242505152535462 ... LastLast
Results 511 to 520 of 681

Thread: Appendix Carry

  1. #511
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    149
    Feedback Score
    0
    I heard this story on the radio and thought I'd share it here just for fun. It sounds like the guy was carrying A-IWB "Mexican" style.

    Shoppers recall silence, fear in Lynnwood Lowe's store when man shot himself in testicles

    By Erik Lacitis
    Seattle Times staff reporter
    Last edited by JB2000; 10-26-10 at 12:59.

  2. #512
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Sonoran Desert-Arizona
    Posts
    713
    Feedback Score
    0
    Wow... the G30 is one of my two most carried pistols and I can't imagine carrying one (or any gun) while wearing draw-string sweatpants! Some folks just can't help themselves, can they!

  3. #513
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    26
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by JB2000 View Post
    I heard this story on the radio and thought I'd share it here just for fun. It sounds like the guy was carrying A-IWB "Mexican" style.

    Shoppers recall silence, fear in Lynnwood Lowe's store when man shot himself in testicles

    By Erik Lacitis
    Seattle Times staff reporter


    For a few seconds, there was total silence at Lowe's Home Improvement in Lynnwood just after the gunshot went off at 12:30 on Sunday afternoon.

    "It was dead quiet," remembers Jim Fischer, a Shoreline Fire Department paramedic who happened to be at the checkout line with his wife, Kim. They're doing a bathroom remodel.

    These days, you hear a loud bang while shopping, and it's hard not to think the worst.

    "I'm thinking, if it's an active shooter, we're bolting," Fischer says.

    Then a Lowe's employee shouted for somebody to call an ambulance, that somebody had shot himself.

    OK, Fischer decided, I better go see if I can help the victim.

    It turned out to be a story that by the next day would go viral on the Web:

    A 41-year-old Lynnwood man had accidentally shot himself in the testicles at Lowe's.

    For those at the scene, it would be something they'll remember as initially scary, and then, as they learned the details ... the guy did what?

    Helping the victim, who was wearing black sweatpants, Fischer asked how it happened.

    "He says, 'It was in my waistband, and I felt it starting to slip, reached for it, and I must have positioned my finger so the trigger went off," Fischer remembered Thursday.

    A Lynnwood police report about the incident says the gun was a Glock 30, a compact pistol described by the manufacturer as "the legendary .45 caliber."

    The man had a concealed-weapons permit to carry the gun, said Shannon Sessions, spokeswoman for Lynnwood police.

    The Times is not naming the man because no crime was committed.

    The report says the man was "joking with staff members" at Harborview Medical Center after medics took him there.

    But on Wednesday afternoon, back at his apartment after being released from the hospital Tuesday, he wasn't in much of a joking mood.

    "I'm up. I'm walking. I'm good. I don't want to talk to you," he said.

    He then closed the door.

    Harborview said it could not disclose the extent of his injuries.

    Fischer says that as he helped the victim as they waited for medics to arrive — by applying pressure to the wound, and by cutting away the sweatpants while leaving on the underwear — he could see the groin area was injured, and that there was a wound in middle of the left thigh, and swelling on the top of the left foot.

    He surmised that was the trajectory of the bullet.

    Those familiar with guns wonder why someone would carry a loaded pistol in his sweatpants.

    "It's not the brightest way to carry it. Sweatpants are loose and not held against your body by a belt," said Dave Workman, senior editor of Gun Week and author of "Washington State Gun Rights and Responsibilities."

    Workman said the bullet wounded the man "at literally point-blank. Think about that for a second."

    The Glock 30 sells for about $630 and weighs 1-½ pounds empty, 2.1 pounds when carrying its 10-round capacity.

    Glock advertises the pistol as having a "Safe Action" system. For example, it includes a mechanism that prevents unintentional firing if the pistol is accidentally dropped on the floor.

    But Glock also warns, "One operating element — one rule. Finger away from the trigger ... "

    Workman says that in the "adrenaline rush" of reaching for a gun that's slipped, it's natural for the index finger to then also close on the trigger.

    Then, bang.

    For the shoppers who were at Lowe's on Sunday afternoon, it'll certainly be a memorable spring Sunday.

    Kim Fischer will remember that after deciding there wasn't a random shooter in the store, "nobody got panicky. There was nobody running down the floor screaming."

    What Michael McDougall, of Snohomish, who was there with his wife, Connie, and their 5-year-old daughter, Bridgette, will remember also is that initial moment of fear.

    "Initially I thought it was maybe gang-related. I was afraid for my wife and daughter, and I thought, 'I think we should be leaving.' " he says.

    He commends the Lowe's employees for their calm actions in getting help. A manager at Lowe's said store personnel are not commenting on the incident.

    And he remembers the initial scream, "Oh, my God, I shot myself in the groin!"

    That's a quote you remember for years.
    This guy should have taken a lesson from Plaxico Burress. All the same stupid mistakes. Glock+No Holster+Sweatpants=hole in the leg.

  4. #514
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    4,240
    Feedback Score
    3 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by karandom View Post
    This guy should have taken a lesson from Plaxico Burress. All the same stupid mistakes. Glock+No Holster+Sweatpants=hole in the leg.
    AAAHAHAHAHAHA

    Darwinism at it's finest!

    Guy who should not have a weapon, shoots himself in the nuts, can not reproduce, thus, we have less people who should not have firearms.

    Awesome!

    Im looking to CCW a G19 when I visit my friends in free states [using a Florida CCW] and this was my greatest fear. But the folks on here assured me that as long as I am not a retard like this guy, I should be fine, and I agree. Good holster + finger off trigger = my balls are safe.

  5. #515
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    UT
    Posts
    1,996
    Feedback Score
    6 (100%)

    P7M8 and AIWB

    I am not sure if this bit of info I am about to post would be helpful to anyone - simply because it is not "searcheable" and only most dedicated reader will go through 28 pages long thread. This is a small eval and observations.

    Pistol - P7M8, holster - CCC's Shaggy. At the time of me ordering it, there was only one other Shaggy built for P7, so there isn't much of user data on this combo.

    Pistol's pros in regards to AIWB: short slide - less digging into groin; positive 10 lbs mechanical safety and ability to feel for striker - better safety margin during reholstering.

    Pistol's cons in regards to AIWB: short slide - doesn't stabilize heavy frame/butt as well; comparatively to conventional guns, P7 has to sit higher to clear squeeze cocker; heavy all steel frame combined with higher position combined with shorter slide - stability and comfort issues.

    Holster issues: Not too many. Worksmanship is excellent. I have both kydex loop and snap loops. Kydex one appears more stable. One problem is that it doesn't work well with some of my pants where belt loop is wide and interferes with appropriate holster position.
    Twice I have ejected a magazine during reholstering by pressing trigger release lever against holster - this is a training issue, but is probably worth mentioning.

    Every day carry experience: plain and simple, it is more difficult, pant-sensitive (I want to trademark the term) and less comfortable to me. With my Delfatti IWB, P7 simply disappears; I often forget it is there. With AIWB I always feel it. I can find a position where it doesn't bother me, but I know it is there. More difficult: with AIWB even 1-2 cm of position shift may mean the difference between relative comfort vs pain. This shift has happened several times requiring me to seek cover and reposition the holster. With conventional IWB, while position shift is not desirable for consistency purposes, it doesn't bother me.
    Pant-sensitivity: softer fabrique and lower rise pants don't jive well with AIWB, and I already mentioned occasional interaction with front belt loops. With IWB, this hasn't been an issue. With most pants I wear there is a for-aft minimal rotational movement of holster/gun. It isn't unstable, but it isn't as rock solid as IWB.
    Shirt-sensitivity: I always wear closed-front shirts/T-shirts so it hasn't been much change. However, with IWB all I need to make sure is that shirt is long enough. With AIWB, it has to be long and relatively loose.

    So, with all that, I decided I was going to proclaim that either AIWB is not for me, or P7M8 is not for AIWB. Since no good eval is compete without actual live fire, I headed to the range today to assess
    Live fire performance: 0.40 second advantage for the first shot on 3x5 card at 25 feet with AIWB, and this was my first ever live AIWB practice. That much advantage is hard to ignore or argue with.

    I am still deciding if I am going to carry AIWB. I have a Glock 19 but, unlike many others here, I am not going to carry striker-fired safety-less pistol that way. P7M8 may work with some attire, but not other. Biggest question for me is whether to try it with my 5" Dawson-railed 1911s.
    Last edited by YVK; 06-15-10 at 23:41.

  6. #516
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    1,066
    Feedback Score
    7 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by dookie1481 View Post
    I've really tried with the Shaggy, but I just can't seem to get it to conceal my pistol at all. The wedge shape (and the shape of my belly) pushes the butt of the gun away from my body and makes concealment damn near impossible. I've gone back to my Looper (which I keep forgetting to sent in to get fixed) and have my Shaggy up for trade in the EE if anyone is interested.

    Jay
    I think I'm gonna stick with my Shaggy for now and give it a try...I'm pretty sure if I lost about 10 pounds it would be outstanding.

    I also ordered a Garrity In-Victus AIWB holster. Mark said the wait is about 5-6 months right now, so hopefully I'll have it for X-Mas.

    Jay
    "You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of football team, or some nuclear weapons, but in the very least you need a beer."
    — Frank Zappa

    If the gun goes dry I use my knife. If the knife breaks off I use my teeth. I have only one rule - Start one job and see it through - The universe will have to offer someone else the leftovers. Multi tasking doesn't work in business or in gunfighting.
    - Michael de Bethencourt

  7. #517
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    CO
    Posts
    149
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by dookie1481 View Post
    I think I'm gonna stick with my Shaggy for now and give it a try...I'm pretty sure if I lost about 10 pounds it would be outstanding.

    Jay
    I dropped fifteen pounds from the time I first got my Looper and the comfort of carry was increased dramatically for me. AIWB benefits a great deal more from being trim than regular IWB does.

  8. #518
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Poland
    Posts
    1,688
    Feedback Score
    0
    Anyone can help me whith how get Shaggy ordered and shipped to Poland? Web shop on CCC seem to be out of work.

    I'm left handed and I carry P2000SK and P30. Now I use MTAC (VMII before it), but since I lost some 50lb in last few months it starts to print on my side
    Montrala

    I'm sponsored competition shooter representing Heckler&Koch, Kahles, Hornady and Typhoon Defence brands in Poland, so I can be biased

    http://montrala.blogspot.com

  9. #519
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    UT
    Posts
    1,996
    Feedback Score
    6 (100%)
    H
    Quote Originally Posted by montrala View Post
    Anyone can help me whith how get Shaggy ordered and shipped to Poland? Web shop on CCC seem to be out of work.

    I'm left handed and I carry P2000SK and P30. Now I use MTAC (VMII before it), but since I lost some 50lb in last few months it starts to print on my side
    Rich turns off his webshop when he doesn't take orders due to backlog. I would email him to discuss logistics of your situation.

  10. #520
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Poland
    Posts
    1,688
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by YVK View Post
    H

    Rich turns off his webshop when he doesn't take orders due to backlog. I would email him to discuss logistics of your situation.
    Thanks!
    Montrala

    I'm sponsored competition shooter representing Heckler&Koch, Kahles, Hornady and Typhoon Defence brands in Poland, so I can be biased

    http://montrala.blogspot.com

Page 52 of 69 FirstFirst ... 242505152535462 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •