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    The G30 isn't exactly small. It's about the same size as a G19, and I know quite a few people who AIWB the G19. In fact, the guy who sort of started the ball rolling on my interest for AIWB has been carrying a G19 that way both over here and over there for quite a while.

    But I think it's worth reminding folks that there are inherent dangers related to AIWB, especially for guns with no manual safety and no hammer. Even well trained people make mistakes. Make a mistake holstering your AIWB-carried pistol and if you're lucky you'll only blow your privates to hell. If you're unlucky you will get to experience first hand what a femoral blow-out looks like.

    • Always make sure there is nothing obstructing your holster before you put the gun away.
    • Always make sure your finger is completely off of and away from the trigger before you put the gun away.
    • Tilt the butt inboard as you holster, which should have the effect of pressing the muzzle outward so that if you do inadvertently touch off a round, it might go forward far enough to miss all of your important parts.
    • Never be in a hurry to put the gun away. I know there are some legitimate reasons to holster a gun quickly, but they're few, far between, and not worth killing yourself over (literally).
    • Practice with a dry gun approximately one million times before you put a loaded gun down the front of your pants.
    • If you follow all of the above advice and still blow your dick off or put a round through your leg, sucks to be you. You were warned.

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    Thanks Todd, great points... I like my privates and I don't want to watch myself quickly bleed to death. Practice, Practice, Practice drawing and holstering until it is second nature and never touch the trigger until you're ready. Thanks again. I think I'll try a Looper AIWB. If it doesn't work for me, I'll add it to the box of holsters that I don't use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddG View Post
    The G30 isn't exactly small. It's about the same size as a G19, and I know quite a few people who AIWB the G19. In fact, the guy who sort of started the ball rolling on my interest for AIWB has been carrying a G19 that way both over here and over there for quite a while.

    But I think it's worth reminding folks that there are inherent dangers related to AIWB, especially for guns with no manual safety and no hammer. Even well trained people make mistakes. Make a mistake holstering your AIWB-carried pistol and if you're lucky you'll only blow your privates to hell. If you're unlucky you will get to experience first hand what a femoral blow-out looks like.

    • Always make sure there is nothing obstructing your holster before you put the gun away.
    • Always make sure your finger is completely off of and away from the trigger before you put the gun away.
    • Tilt the butt inboard as you holster, which should have the effect of pressing the muzzle outward so that if you do inadvertently touch off a round, it might go forward far enough to miss all of your important parts.
    • Never be in a hurry to put the gun away. I know there are some legitimate reasons to holster a gun quickly, but they're few, far between, and not worth killing yourself over (literally).
    • Practice with a dry gun approximately one million times before you put a loaded gun down the front of your pants.
    • If you follow all of the above advice and still blow your dick off or put a round through your leg, sucks to be you. You were warned.
    It is exactly reasons like this I wish Glock would offer a model with a manual safety.

    Is S&W going to offer their compact nine with a safety Todd?

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    It is exactly reasons like this I wish Glock would offer a model with a manual safety.
    Me too...but whenever I have the temerity of even suggesting this, the "keep your booger hook of the bang switch" commandos come out of the woodwork and excoriate me inside out (on another forum)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Metal View Post
    Is S&W going to offer their compact nine with a safety Todd?
    To expound on Todd's previous response, the S&W M&P9C w/ manual safety should be on shelves (or at least available for order) as I type this; we had one in last weekend at the shop where I work part-time, here in central IN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddG View Post

    Wearing it right now. Hoping the design gets finalized within a month or so (one of the M4C mods is getting a pre-production sample to T&E for final feedback and any last minute changes) and then I should have permission to post photos.
    Fair enough sir. Thanks.
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    In certain markets, Glock has previously released pistols for government contracts that required a manual safety.
    Last edited by DocGKR; 04-03-09 at 13:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocGKR View Post
    In certain markets, Glock has previously released pistols for government contracts that required a manual safety.
    My understanding has always been that the safety-equipped Glocks are completely verboten here in the U.S. because Glock is fearful of potential legal backlash.

    According to lawyers at both gun companies I worked for, Glock gets sued for safety/accident issues more than the entire rest of the firearms industry combined. Coming into the market now with a safety equipped gun, they fear, will appear like admission of guilt that the standard configuration isn't safe enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddG View Post
    My understanding has always been that the safety-equipped Glocks are completely verboten here in the U.S. because Glock is fearful of potential legal backlash.

    According to lawyers at both gun companies I worked for, Glock gets sued for safety/accident issues more than the entire rest of the firearms industry combined. Coming into the market now with a safety equipped gun, they fear, will appear like admission of guilt that the standard configuration isn't safe enough.
    At a SHOT show a few years ago, I asked a Glock rep (one of the flunkies, not the ones that shot for their team or GSSF ) about the availability of the manual safety pistol and he looked at me like I had two heads, he said "why do you want the safety?"

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    My understanding has always been that the safety-equipped Glocks are completely verboten here in the U.S. because Glock is fearful of potential legal backlash.

    According to lawyers at both gun companies I worked for, Glock gets sued for safety/accident issues more than the entire rest of the firearms industry combined. Coming into the market now with a safety equipped gun, they fear, will appear like admission of guilt that the standard configuration isn't safe enough.
    Interesting, and actually probably a realistic concern in this litigious society.

    As my pal Mike Orick likes to say, Glocks are the Perfect gun for Perfect people.
    hehe yeah!

    Next time I'll tell the perfect person to put his perfect Glock where his money is, and carry that bad boy mexican appendix carry, if all one needs to worry about is "keeping one's booger hook off the bang switch"

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