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    ATF Efile system down, permanently?

    Anyone else get this email this morning???
    I have a form 1 out from last October waiting on approval, and have been troubleshooting another form 1 all week with an agent (Form won't let me submit even after making payment).
    I wonder what this means for my forms, or anyone elses...

    So maybe not permanently... But judging by the last paragraph of the email and the ATF's reputation for speed, I don't foresee is coming back anytime soon.

    Tried logging in to my efile account... "Page not available"

    "Good Afternoon:

    You are receiving this email because you are a registered eForms user

    ATF eForms Update

    The new eForms has been named the “Firearms and Explosives Application Module (FEAM)”. This name was selected to emphasis that FEAM is more than a “fillable form”. It is a business process module which will include at a minimum the functionality listed below:

    · Auto assignment – All applications will be immediately upon submission assigned to an examiner for processing.

    · Auto approval – Some forms, like the ATF Forms 2 and 3, if they meet certain pre-determined criteria will be automatically approved by the FEAM system upon submission.

    · Internal controls and performance measurement reporting – ATF has a full audit trail of every application received with date and time stamps for every step in the process. Digital signatures can be used to lock down portions of the form to ensure the security of the data and the authenticity of the submitter.

    · Improved business processes with automatic Records Management & Retention, as mandated by the Office of Management and Budget.

    · Electronic Signature (for submitter and ATF personnel) - provides enhanced authentication, validation and improves processing and approval.

    · Enhance Industry satisfaction: user-friendly interaction.

    · FEAM provides the Application Program Interface (APIs) needed to update the existing ATF back end databases, to allow for the batch submission of multiple forms using one computer session.

    · Improves efficiency for the Enforcement Programs and Services staff – Forms can be automatically routed, evaluated and tracked so that final determinations can be made in a consistent and expeditious manner.

    We had hoped to be able to present the first iteration of FEAM at the 2016 SHOT Show. ATF performed an assessment of what was contracted to be developed for FEAM and what the contractor planned to deliver. At the end of the assessment, all parties involved felt that the product outlined in the current contract did not fully provide all the functionality that we expected, or that the industry requested. For these reasons we decided that rather than to continue on the current course, we would take the steps listed below to ensure that FEAM is a worthwhile investment for both the industry and ATF:

    1. Curtail the current development effort.

    2. Determine what is needed to sustain the existing eForms system, until the full requirements for FEAM can be determined and developed.

    3. Make the necessary changes to eForms to stabilize the infrastructure with the ever-increasing user population.

    4. Determine if we can re-introduce the Form 3 to the current eForms, through load testing and other system validations.

    5. Perform an assessment of the ATF and industry requirements for FEAM.

    6. Secure required funding for a new FEAM initiative, based on the revised requirements.

    7. Restart the FEAM initiative, to include industry participation during the requirements gathering and testing processes.

    We look at this as only a minor delay. It is our intention to use this delay to acquire the tools and resources necessary to develop a product that will provide more functionality and a stable workflow process and infrastructure. All the work previously done on FEAM is not lost. It will be the foundation for the work that is yet to come. If you have any questions you can contact Lee Alston-Williams at lee.alston-williams@atf.gov."

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    I did not receive that email but I was also unsuccessful at trying to log in to my account.

    Strange. I wonder if this is a good thing or bad. I currently have two forms pending; one eForm F1 & a mailed F4.
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    I got the same email, and I just filed like 3-4 days ago - two form 1s. *fingers crossed

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    Yeah I got the same email, seems like hopefully the website will encounter some problems, but I hope that applications approvals will not be affected at this time as I submitted a form 1 on 9/25/2015 and am now getting anxious.

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    This doesn't affect the current system. This is an update on eForms 2.0, now called FEAM...which they've been working on for almost 2 years.

    I just logged into eForms with no problem. Just like I did yesterday, and Wednesday evening, and Tuesday, and Monday. Make sure to do a refresh (F5 or whatever's applicable for your browser)
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    Update: Was able to log into my account. Curious if this will have any effect on me.

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    Auto Approval of most Form2 and Form3s is a pretty big deal... But I'm really not sure it could cut the workload enough for the end user for me to care about.

    It's not like removing the bulk of Forms 2 and 3 from the system will be us 30 day waits.

    Also.... Secure funding... Where exactly is are all my $200 checks going again?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max713 View Post
    Update: Was able to log into my account. Curious if this will have any effect on me.
    No. Title is nonsense speculation. Be more careful.

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    I was able to log in and view my two submitted f1's. I had to read the email a few times to see what it was saying. It basically has no real "news" in terms of new functionality for us a civilian end users. I do like the form 3 news, as I have been waiting 60 days for the one I filed on my omega.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRallyeZ View Post
    I was able to log in and view my two submitted f1's. I had to read the email a few times to see what it was saying. It basically has no real "news" in terms of new functionality for us a civilian end users. I do like the form 3 news, as I have been waiting 60 days for the one I filed on my omega.....
    I read it multiple times also, couldn't quite grasp what they were getting at. But when I went to sign into my account and got a "Page not found" error, I assumed it meant the worst.
    Actually got off the phone with someone at the ATF today, more troubleshooting over my Form 1... They had no idea about the email. Strange.

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