FFL Gun Seller Demanding a Copy of My Driver's License

[Ernst]

I'm sorry, but I do not have access to "General Discussion" yet, so I thought I would post his here.

I've purchased dozens of firearms from Gunbroker, from FFL dealers selling there and ran across something for the first time the other day. I purchased a handgun from a FFL dealer down in TX that is brand new to Gunbroker, with no rating. Everything went fine but they are demanding I send them a copy of my driver's license and are claiming they are "legally obligated" to have a copy of it to prove I'm over 18. I've tried to tell them that the FFL transfer process does precisely that and they are not delivering it to me, but to a FFL who will follow the legal requirements, including verifying my identity, age, etc. The ATF's own requirements simply state that a FFL dealer can not sell to anyone they think may be underage, but does nowhere require them to collect driver license copies.

Since this is the first time this has happened to me in the many years I've been buying from FFL dealers on Gunbroker, is this FFL right and all other FFL dealers wrong?

Thanks for any opinions/thoughts.

[el_chingoton13]

I had a dealer take my DL and make a copy "for their records" as I was filling out a 4473 once. I wasn't pleased. Haven't been back there since.

[scottryan]

I had a dealer take my DL and make a copy "for their records" as I was filling out a 4473 once. I wasn't pleased. Haven't been back there since.

Some of you people just don't get it.

Most FFLs make a copy of your DL and CCW/state gun purchase card when you fill out a 4473.

[scottryan]

I'm sorry, but I do not have access to "General Discussion" yet, so I thought I would post his here.

I've purchased dozens of firearms from Gunbroker, from FFL dealers selling there and ran across something for the first time the other day. I purchased a handgun from a FFL dealer down in TX that is brand new to Gunbroker, with no rating. Everything went fine but they are demanding I send them a copy of my driver's license and are claiming they are "legally obligated" to have a copy of it to prove I'm over 18. I've tried to tell them that the FFL transfer process does precisely that and they are not delivering it to me, but to a FFL who will follow the legal requirements, including verifying my identity, age, etc. The ATF's own requirements simply state that a FFL dealer can not sell to anyone they think may be underage, but does nowhere require them to collect driver license copies.

Since this is the first time this has happened to me in the many years I've been buying from FFL dealers on Gunbroker, is this FFL right and all other FFL dealers wrong?

Thanks for any opinions/thoughts.

They don't legally need a copy of your DL but they are asking for it as an internal policy. In the time it takes you to post this, you could have already sent it to them and been done with this nonsense.

[el_chingoton13]

Oh I get it and let them do it as it is their business to make that policy. I just decided to take my business to one of the myriad other dealers in my area that don't have similar practices.

[Ernst]

I had a dealer take my DL and make a copy "for their records" as I was filling out a 4473 once. I wasn't pleased. Haven't been back there since.

Yes, that always happens.

This is NOT what I'm talking about or asking about. I am talking about a dealer demanding me to give them a copy of my driver's license before they ship the firearm to my FFL, with whom, as always, I'll go through the background check, form 4473, etc. etc.

[Ernst]

They don't legally need a copy of your DL but they are asking for it as an internal policy.

No, they are telling me it is a legal requirement, which I know is BS. He is a noob Gunbroker dealer and I told him no other dealer has ever done this. I'm not sending it, period. If they want to lose a sale and get an "F" rating as their first review on Gunbroker, so be it. I even offered to send them a copy of my conceal carry license.

[Ernst]

Oh I get it and let them do it as it is their business to make that policy. I just decided to take my business to one of the myriad other dealers in my area that don't have similar practices.

In fact, on this thread, you "don't" get it. What you are describing is not what I'm talking about and asking about. So stop gumming up the thread with this please.

[el_chingoton13]

Lol alright guy have a good day.

[tgizzard]

If I'm understanding this, the seller is telling you to send a copy of your license before they will ship to your local FFL?
No that sends the red flags flying in my mind. I wouldn't do it.


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