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Thread: I Saw This Post Knocking Colt, DD, Noveske and BCM

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    There is only a few companys that make the small parts for AR..any one know who they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whytep38 View Post
    I see this kind of thing all the time and have given up trying to discuss the issue. It always turns into an argument where the term "fanboy" becomes a favorite word.

    Some people can't be reasoned with because they won't be reasoned with. Instead, I now ask, "Have you every taken your XYZ through a carbine course?" The answer, if one is given, is always, "No." Then I say, "Please do, and give us a report when you come back." There's never a report. The readers who are interested in learning will probably take the hint. The rest will probably buy what they had already planned to buy and feel pretty happy with themselves. And world keeps turning.
    To be fair, I doubt the people that can afford the money, and time, for a carbine course are far less worried about the cost of the firearm.

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    Perhaps, but the reports I read from course instructors include a lot of stories about lesser guns that crapped out under stress. And even if you don't intend to attend a course, you can still gain a lot of info from those who do and the instructors who run them. That's the kind of info the posters like the OP mentioned never seem interested in for some strange reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    I've broken a few sockets and wrenches over the years, but not since I started buying only from SnapOn or Matco. I'm a surgeon, but I like to use quality tools at home too.
    That's refreshing. I would not be instilled with confidence if I knew my surgeon was a home DIY wrench turner and only used a box full of cheap misfit tools for his/her personal endeavors.

    Cheap tools have a place. I use them all the time for light duty none critical applications. If my surgeon thought it was cool to 'get by with the basics' I would not be thrilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whytep38 View Post
    Perhaps, but the reports I read from course instructors include a lot of stories about lesser guns that crapped out under stress. And even if you don't intend to attend a course, you can still gain a lot of info from those who do and the instructors who run them. That's the kind of info the posters like the OP mentioned never seem interested in for some strange reason.
    Lower end stuff will do just fine when not stressed, and very few people ever intend to stress them. If you are only firing 300 rounds a year, and most of it is on a static range or popping coyotes, a high end AR-15 doesn't bring that much extra to the table. You can be less strict with your maintenance without creating malfunctions, and you'll probably have more flexibility of loads and accuracy. But none of that is going to be a big deal to casual shooter.

    If you're doing carbine courses once or twice a year and putting thousands of rounds downrange, an extra grand for the rifle isn't that much of your budget. I'm not saying cheaper guns are just as good, but they are perfect fine for casual use. I used my Oly Arms to get used to using a red dot sight before I deployed with one. It never gave me issues except with MK262 ammo, but I wouldn't have taken it to the sandbox either.

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    A statement like the one posted by the OP is nonsense and everybody and anybody that knows anything about firearms, not just AR's knows that. There are fourms all over the internet with that type of nonsense and the sad thing is, people actually argue about it. The nice thing about this forum is most know a ting or two about their firearms and know better than to even entertain such stupidity.

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    I find it laughable when people here preach "buy once, cry once" and recommend KAC, BCM, Noveske, LMT, etc. because ARs are "tools", then in the next thread, recommend Harbor Freight junk when someone asks for tool recommendations. I lose all respect for their opinions at that point.
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    JPmuscle,

    I direct you to the ultimate test-Man vs Hipoint on YouTube. First let me state that I personally don't own a Hipoint nor do I intend to buy one. However I would be shocked if an AR from any manufacturer could hold up as well. They are tougher than you might think.

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    I for one am just shocked that a thread extolling the virtues of bottom barrel ARs was found on the High Point forum. The "my cheap brand is just as good as your expensive brand" posters lack the trigger time that many here have. When you get 500 rounds downrange the entire time you own the rifle, it becomes quite easy to try and declare something high quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darr3239 View Post
    ...You borrow what you need from the other guys until your lunch hour...
    That doesn't work very well when your helicopter is brokedick in the desert halfway between Wendover & Salt Lake City, or your medflight King Air is down in Chinle needing a tire change.

    It was during the second or third trip from Tusayan to Flagstaff (about 75 miles one way) to exchange a Craftsman 1/4" 12 point in about as many months that I decided it was time to replace them with Snap-On sockets and they have proven to be much more durable
    INSIDE PLAN OF BOX
    1. ROAD-RUNNER LIFTS GLASS OF WATER- PULLING UP MATCH
    2. MATCH SCRATCHES ON MATCH-BOX
    3. MATCH LIGHTS FUSE TO TNT
    4. BOOM!
    5. HA-HA!!

    -WILE E. COYOTE, AUTHOR OF "EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW IN LIFE, I LEARNED FROM GOLDBERG & MURPHY"

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