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    COLT AR15A4 AVAILABLE AGAIN

    Hello guy's just wanted to let you know, Colt just finished a production run of AR15A4's. I just picked up one today. As you all know these rifles have been almost impossible to find and when one was found usually they wanted a lot more over MSRP.

    For the Colt guy's here I would like to relate some quick observations. The upper receiver is marked M4, the bottom receiver has the key hole mark yet the upper has the C & box mark. I understand these are foundry marks?? My M4 Carbine has the key hole mark on both upper and lower.

    I was under the impresion that the AR15A4's had the heavy barrels, not the normal tapered lighter weight barrel's?? also this rifle has the ambidextrous safety something that the military version does not.

    Overall I have to say that I LIKE IT, but then Iv'e alway's been a Colt guy, except this year I did get an FN Military Collector Edition A4 but that's another story and I don't want to start another pissing match here between the Colt guy's and everybody else.....

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    Post some pics when you get a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by casador View Post
    Hello guy's just wanted to let you know, Colt just finished a production run of AR15A4's. I just picked up one today. As you all know these rifles have been almost impossible to find and when one was found usually they wanted a lot more over MSRP.

    For the Colt guy's here I would like to relate some quick observations. The upper receiver is marked M4, the bottom receiver has the key hole mark yet the upper has the C & box mark. I understand these are foundry marks?? My M4 Carbine has the key hole mark on both upper and lower.

    I was under the impresion that the AR15A4's had the heavy barrels, not the normal tapered lighter weight barrel's?? also this rifle has the ambidextrous safety something that the military version does not.

    Overall I have to say that I LIKE IT, but then Iv'e alway's been a Colt guy, except this year I did get an FN Military Collector Edition A4 but that's another story and I don't want to start another pissing match here between the Colt guy's and everybody else.....
    The colt has a government profile, light under the hand guards, heavy at the end.

    No need for the pissing match, no comparison in quality between the Colt and the FN.

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    Actually, I was looking for one of these until I found an AK-74. The X-mas money was just burning too big a hole in my pocket, and I could not wait any longer.

    BTW, you might get more responses if you posted in the AR General Discussion section instead of the Other Semi-Automatic Rifles section. Hopefully a Mod will move to the correct sub forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrotx1 View Post
    The colt has a government profile, light under the hand guards, heavy at the end.

    No need for the pissing match, no comparison in quality between the Colt and the FN.
    Ok, so what your saying is that I was misinformed, the Colt A4's should NOT have the heavy weight barrel, it is correct with the military light profile barrel?. Q: Do the military issued A4's also have the same barrel?.

    As far as the pissing contest; What are you referring to when you say "Quality" do you mean fit and finish and funtsion or are you referring to the fact that according to what is known, only Colt can build a totally MilSpec commercial rifle, and that FN can not? I ask this because if you are referring to the MilSpec issue I would agree with you with no problem, but if it's fit and finish then I don't agree. Last night I had both out, the FN MC and the Colt A4 I just picked up, and I have to say the finish on the FN is nicer. Iv'e put approximately 500 rounds through the FN with out a single issue. My opinion is that as far as product quality both Colt & FN are very well made rifles and they are just as reliable. Yes" Colt has the MilSpec rights and FN may not but I don't agree to just arbitrarily suggest that FN doesn't even comes close.

    For me personally Colt will alway's be my first pick, it would have been nice that Colt would have been the one to come out with a version of a military collector instead of FN.

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    Did it come with an "F" height FSB?

    Also, both the commercial AR15A4 and military M16A4 have the same gov't profile barrel, except the AR15A4 has M4 feed ramps and the M16A4 does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 556Cliff View Post
    Did it come with an "F" height FSB?

    Also, both the commercial AR15A4 and military M16A4 have the same gov't profile barrel, except the AR15A4 has M4 feed ramps and the M16A4 does not.
    My Colt AR15A4 has the "F" FSB, so does the FN by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casador View Post
    My Colt AR15A4 has the "F" FSB, so does the FN by the way.
    Good! I'm pretty sure the FN also has M4 feed ramps?

    I'm very unsure of the material used in the FN receiver extensions, I could never find out if they are made of 7075 or 6061. 7075 being the better grade of aluminum used for Colt receiver extensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 556Cliff View Post
    Good! I'm pretty sure the FN also has M4 feed ramps?

    I'm very unsure of the material used in the FN receiver extensions, I could never find out if they are made of 7075 or 6061. 7075 being the better grade of aluminum used for Colt receiver extensions.
    Yea" I have no idea about that either, maybe somebody can chime in with that info. I'm taking this one to the range today, will report later.
    Last edited by casador; 02-02-16 at 11:23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casador View Post
    Ok, so what your saying is that I was misinformed, the Colt A4's should NOT have the heavy weight barrel, it is correct with the military light profile barrel?. Q: Do the military issued A4's also have the same barrel?.

    As far as the pissing contest; What are you referring to when you say "Quality" do you mean fit and finish and funtsion or are you referring to the fact that according to what is known, only Colt can build a totally MilSpec commercial rifle, and that FN can not? I ask this because if you are referring to the MilSpec issue I would agree with you with no problem, but if it's fit and finish then I don't agree. Last night I had both out, the FN MC and the Colt A4 I just picked up, and I have to say the finish on the FN is nicer. Iv'e put approximately 500 rounds through the FN with out a single issue. My opinion is that as far as product quality both Colt & FN are very well made rifles and they are just as reliable. Yes" Colt has the MilSpec rights and FN may not but I don't agree to just arbitrarily suggest that FN doesn't even comes close.

    For me personally Colt will alway's be my first pick, it would have been nice that Colt would have been the one to come out with a version of a military collector instead of FN.
    I'm referring to how closely the rifles resemble the specifications to which the m16 is actually made. I don't worry about fit and finish on ARs. Beretta Silver pigeon? yeah sure. AR? not so much

    Glad the FN is working out for you, I don't think many will ever notice the difference. However if the price was the same or better, I'd rather have it as close as possible.

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