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    I don't buy stuff like that off ebay or even Amazon. Chicom knockoffs or licensed airsoft versions marketed as the real deal are not uncommon. If the price is too good to be true, it probably is....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    I don't see anything that stands out as incorrect or share identifying features of known fakes/airsoft.
    Thanks! I just hadn't seen sights from you guys with out markings. Even my micro sights have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boba Fett v2 View Post
    Real and illegally procured according to KAC reps. Doesn't stop people from buying them though. I'm sure Airsoft grade fakes of the USMC sights have been replicated by now.

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    This is why I won't buy any USMC marked sights. I don't support selling stolen equipment. I'd rather pay full retail and buy direct from KAC then buy something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7.62NATO View Post
    Are the USMC-marked KAC sights fakes or illegally procured?

    As this one, for example:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Knights-Arma...sAAOSwuYVWoO6N
    I got a KAC Micro 600 sight from Ebay myself, I just looked at the photos on the KAC web page and they are identical, and I could see the KAC logo and KAC stamp, both are on the top. You can almost see the USMC stamp on the front of the sight in their picture. The one that is pictured above on 7.62NATO's post is from the same seller I got mine from, he guarantees them to be originals. Where he gets them I have no idea. I mounted mine on the rifle and they work just fine. Also from Ebay I just received a NIB KAC rail for my new Colt AR15A4, it's completely legit and I paid $150 for it. There are some good deals on Ebay you just have to know what you buying and do your homework before pushing that bid button....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7.62NATO View Post
    Are the USMC-marked KAC sights fakes or illegally procured?

    As this one, for example:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Knights-Arma...sAAOSwuYVWoO6N
    Illicitly acquired.
    There have been 0 sales of 25650-1 (USMC marked, hex cross-screw, in contract bulk bag) to anyone other than military end-users.
    Jack Leuba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Illicitly acquired.
    There have been 0 sales of 25650-1 (USMC marked, hex cross-screw, in contract bulk bag) to anyone other than military end-users.
    Just out of curiosity I went through Ebay and contacted the dealer that has these sights for sale. I asked him to comment on the authenticity of the KAC sights he was selling. His response was that they were 100% legit, not stolen from the military, he stated he buy's them from a broker and that they are perfectly legal. I bought one of these from him a few months ago and they work just fine, they came in a sealed bag with instructions on sighting and general use. If what he's is selling is so illicitly obtained and illegally sold then DOD or KAC should investigate and track this guy down. Seeing how they are openly sold on the net, maybe no cares.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by casador View Post
    Just out of curiosity I went through Ebay and contacted the dealer that has these sights for sale. I asked him to comment on the authenticity of the KAC sights he was selling. His response was that they were 100% legit, not stolen from the military, he stated he buy's them from a broker and that they are perfectly legal. I bought one of these from him a few months ago and they work just fine, they came in a sealed bag with instructions on sighting and general use. If what he's is selling is so illicitly obtained and illegally sold then DOD or KAC should investigate and track this guy down. Seeing how they are openly sold on the net, maybe no cares.....
    It's been stated before, but apparently there's been an ongoing investigation and KAC reps aren't at liberty to discuss the details of this investigation on an open public forum. I'm sure Jack will come along soon enough to confirm, deny or call me a fukcface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by casador View Post
    Just out of curiosity I went through Ebay and contacted the dealer that has these sights for sale. I asked him to comment on the authenticity of the KAC sights he was selling. His response was that they were 100% legit, not stolen from the military, he stated he buy's them from a broker and that they are perfectly legal. I bought one of these from him a few months ago and they work just fine, they came in a sealed bag with instructions on sighting and general use. If what he's is selling is so illicitly obtained and illegally sold then DOD or KAC should investigate and track this guy down. Seeing how they are openly sold on the net, maybe no cares.....
    There are several active investigations about these. If you provide his pertinent details I will be sure to pass them into the investigating agencies.

    As far as "nobody cares", I care, and take umbrage that people think that it's fine that others profit from our tax money spent directly on the warfighter.

    These aren't grey area items. They were, at some point, stolen from the military. Maybe it wasn't the last person in possession, but the moment they were removed from government control, they were stolen, and that is the only way those get to the open market.
    Jack Leuba
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    Knight's Armament Company
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boba Fett v2 View Post
    It's been stated before, but apparently there's been an ongoing investigation and KAC reps aren't at liberty to discuss the details of this investigation on an open public forum. I'm sure Jack will come along soon enough to confirm, deny or call me a fukcface.
    So let me see if I have this right. You can buy one of these sights directly from KAC (Not USMC marked) but not from Ebay. Anyone one of these sights with the USMC markings should be considered illicitly obtained (stolen)?? Is this correct??

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    Quote Originally Posted by casador View Post
    So let me see if I have this right. You can buy one of these sights directly from KAC (Not USMC marked) but not from Ebay. Anyone one of these sights with the USMC markings should be considered illicitly obtained (stolen)?? Is this correct??
    Yup. But considering the sheer number of these things floating around out there, there are a lot of folks using illicitly obtained items. All my KAC sights have been purchased through KAC, authorized dealers or seemingly vetted forum members, so my conscious is clear. And yes, you can buy legit KAC sights from eBay as well. ecop! is a good example of a legit KAC dealer on eBay.
    Last edited by Boba Fett v2; 02-09-16 at 21:14.
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