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    If you're trying to build on a budget there are a ton of in-spec lowers that aren't at Noveske prices.

    Upper:
    BCM Demo Upper - $90 (seen many of them, and if you're building a workhorse the "scratches" will be a non-issue)
    BCM FA and Ejection Port Covers - $26
    BCM KMR Alpha 13 - $190
    Daniel Defense 16" barrel - $250
    Adams Low Pro Gas block/roll pin/gas tube - $40
    BCM BCG: $170

    Lower:
    Seeking Forged Lower - $90
    BCM Lower Parts Kit - $100
    VLTOR A5 RE Kit - $95
    Stock of your choice - $50

    I hit $1101 on that build and while you could trim money on some things, I wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChunkNorris View Post
    You can piece together a BCM for about that.

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-C...mod-0-mail.htm

    395.00

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-B...16lw%20bfh.htm

    585.00 with both and charging handle(mid length)

    https://www.magpul.com/products/moe-...ard-mid-length

    MOE SL Mid length hand guard : 40.00

    Grand total of 1020.00

    I bet that’s a nice and reliable setup but way to easy to put together. I tried to find a stripped BCM lower but it looks like they don’t offer any. Was that always the case?


    Quote Originally Posted by 3 AE View Post
    Me thinks the OP prefers to build this AR from the "ground up". Though if I had around $1000.00 to spend on a "workhorse" AND wanted a mid length gas system, built by one of the most respected AR manufacturers around. It would be what you suggested in your post "Chuck" plus adding a rear sight.
    Exactly. Chances are I’ll get a BCM at some point but for now I’m really excited to build several ARs and tweak them at the range.


    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Noveske Gen 1, Chainsaw lowers at $175 looks attractive...

    http://www.noveske.com/collections/parts

    I haven't considered Noveske yet, that lower looks really good. Do you know the weight of the lower? Are they a good fit for uppers from other manufacturers? If not, the set is too expensive at $600 for this build.


    Quote Originally Posted by PrivateCitizen View Post
    Nothing says you can't disassemble and reassemble something.

    Buying something with good quality parts and examining it to increase familiarity and methodically disassembling is about the best education on the platform you can expect going solo

    It might be worth noting that if you're planning on building this you will need a certain set of tools wish I could run you as much as $200 alone

    Unless you're absolutely married to the mid length concept the Colt OEM is a value nearly unmatched in the market.

    You might also want to note that lower parts kits of decent quality are hard to come by right now. Most manufacturers seem to be reserving those parts for their complete builds

    Let's talk about tools. Here is a list of items I still need:

    - Vise holding tool
    - Barrel nut tool
    - Pin ball punch set

    My BCM KMR rail came with a torque wrench adapter and a BCM barrel nut. Will this wrench adapter work for all barrel nuts like the V7?

    What about this Reaction Rod?

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/44...se-block-steel

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Stormin_ View Post
    If you're trying to build on a budget there are a ton of in-spec lowers that aren't at Noveske prices.

    Upper:
    BCM Demo Upper - $90 (seen many of them, and if you're building a workhorse the "scratches" will be a non-issue)
    BCM FA and Ejection Port Covers - $26
    BCM KMR Alpha 13 - $190
    Daniel Defense 16" barrel - $250
    Adams Low Pro Gas block/roll pin/gas tube - $40
    BCM BCG: $170

    Lower:
    Seeking Forged Lower - $90
    BCM Lower Parts Kit - $100
    VLTOR A5 RE Kit - $95
    Stock of your choice - $50

    I hit $1101 on that build and while you could trim money on some things, I wouldn't.

    This looks interesting. I’ll look into the details later today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronMaiden View Post
    I was going for a Mag Tactical Lightweight lower but it looks like they had issues with cracked lowers and are out of business. There are also a bunch of unhappy customers on their FaceBook page. Anybody know if they are going to come back?
    Not sure why you'd even bring up "Mag Tactical" if:
    -They had issues with cracked lowers
    -They are out of business
    -There are a bunch of unhappy customers

    Who cares if they're coming back.

    Quote Originally Posted by IronMaiden View Post
    What is currently a good and somewhat lightweight lower in the $70 - $150 range? I’m not big on PSA.
    The lower receiver is not really the place to look to lose weight on a "workhorse" AR15. Much bigger weight roles are held by the barrel length and profile, rail selection, buttstock, accessories, and optics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmund Freud View Post
    A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lincoln7 View Post
    Not sure why you'd even bring up "Mag Tactical" if:
    It seems OP's 4lb AR thread is bleeding into this "workhorse" thread. He just has ultra lightweight on the mind maybe?


    Iron, maybe you consider a polymer AR lower? Lots of people on the forums say they hold up just fine, would also satisfy your quest for lightweight. And I mean, Glocks are polymer and no one has issue with those. Maybe you could have lightweight and workhorse in the same package.

    Edit: AND on second thought you can get an 80% and finish it out yourself since you're into the engineering.
    Last edited by Noodles; 02-13-16 at 12:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lincoln7 View Post
    Who cares if they're coming back.
    If nobody cares why do you even answer? If you don't have anything productive to say, where does that leave you? Maybe Mag Tactical is coming back with a reworked version of the lower? I don't know, that's why I ask.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lincoln7 View Post
    The lower receiver is not really the place to look to lose weight on a "workhorse" AR15. Much bigger weight roles are held by the barrel length and profile, rail selection, buttstock, accessories, and optics.
    If I want to pick the lightest lower within my posted range of $70 - $150, that doesn’t exclude that I won't keep an eye on the other parts too.

    I posted 3 simple questions:

    1.) Anybody know if they are going to come back?

    2.) What is currently a good and somewhat lightweight lower in the $70 - $150 range?

    3.) What barrel provides good accuracy and fits into the budget?

    You managed to answer not ONE of them. How about just answering my questions?!

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    There's a bunch of knowledgeable people on this forum and it's too bad that it gets run down by a handful of guys taking MY approach in this matter overly personal and posting stuff that doesn’t answer my questions or is utterly unrelated bullshit.

    Very simple: if you don’t want to answer my specific questions, just stay out of my threads. You are wasting your time, once you post unrelated crap, I don’t care about your answers anymore. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodles View Post
    It seems OP's 4lb AR thread is bleeding into this "workhorse" thread. He just has ultra lightweight on the mind maybe?


    Iron, maybe you consider a polymer AR lower? Lots of people on the forums say they hold up just fine, would also satisfy your quest for lightweight. And I mean, Glocks are polymer and no one has issue with those. Maybe you could have lightweight and workhorse in the same package.

    Edit: AND on second thought you can get an 80% and finish it out yourself since you're into the engineering.
    Skip any polymer lower but I think Noodles had a good idea with the 80% lower.

    It seems to be right up your alley of enjoying the planning/building aspect of these builds. It would get you more involved with the build versus building a Lego set.

    I personally question the amount of money being spent on the "Ooh, aah" build and such a minimal budget for this one. When I think of a 'workhorse' I envision a 6920. A 6920 will be extremely difficult to duplicate for $1000 buying pieces separately.

    Your builds, your time and your money. Whatever.

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    I defintiely think OP should build his 80%. And if OP does 80% polymer (there are some VERY light ones!) that can go into his LW build too. And if there is ever an issue he can just make another one. Plus he could have parts commonality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodles View Post
    I defintiely think OP should build his 80%. And if OP does 80% polymer (there are some VERY light ones!) that can go into his LW build too. And if there is ever an issue he can just make another one. Plus he could have parts commonality.
    All very good points.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmund Freud View Post
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