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    You guys made it very easy for me

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    Good, that's what were here for, to help each other out. You wont be disappointed, if you are then the AR is probably not for you. I would say let us know how you like it but I think we already know what the answer will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    Eugene Stoner may have verbalized a desire to fix the bolt on the AR (as it was originally designed for a 20" barrel with rifle length gas system) but he died LONG before the E3 bolt was ever a thing. That is why I don't take anything seriously in gun rags.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Stoner
    True, but the E3 and other concepts (ambidextrous controls) that were implemented into the SR15 were his brain child. It could be argued that had he not conceptualized what would eventually be developed, tested, and implemented into the SR15, then perhaps maybe KAC wouldn't have become an industry leader in design and innovation that they've become known for. Considering he spent the final years of his life dedicated to finding ways to improve and already proven system (not just the AR10), I think that in itself earns him the honor of being given credit for the development of the SR15. That's all I'm saying.
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    It is also my understanding, from all the research I've done, that the SR improvements came from E. Stoner. Of course the SR in it's present form did not but the base improvements did (E3 bolt). I believe there are some KAC reps here, maybe they will chime in with more details, I would be interested to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boba Fett v2 View Post
    True, but the E3 and other concepts (ambidextrous controls) that were implemented into the SR15 were his brain child. It could be argued that had he not conceptualized what would eventually be developed, tested, and implemented into the SR15, then perhaps maybe KAC wouldn't have become an industry leader in design and innovation that they've become known for. Considering he spent the final years of his life dedicated to finding ways to improve and already proven system (not just the AR10), I think that in itself earns him the honor of being given credit for the development of the SR15. That's all I'm saying.
    Eugene Stoner's influence at KAC was very strong, no doubt about it.

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    What is with all the KAC vs boutique "more unnecessary machine work than a scrap practice block in Machining 101" trendy brand of the week threads?

    If you just want to post pictures of your gun or attract attention at the range to show of how much you can afford to spend, either gun will work with an edge to the Warsport. However, I think that the SR15 is the only ar pattern rifle that has the functionality to justify the premium cost.

    As far as the warsport goes, if you want a "low visibility upper" why don't you just get a good flashhider, instead of wrapping an extra heavy rail around an overpriced, underperforming compensator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    Eugene Stoner's influence at KAC was very strong, no doubt about it.
    And he has a really awesome last name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stahljaeger View Post
    What is with all the KAC vs boutique "more unnecessary machine work than a scrap practice block in Machining 101" trendy brand of the week threads?

    If you just want to post pictures of your gun or attract attention at the range to show of how much you can afford to spend, either gun will work with an edge to the Warsport. However, I think that the SR15 is the only ar pattern rifle that has the functionality to justify the premium cost.

    As far as the warsport goes, if you want a "low visibility upper" why don't you just get a good flashhider, instead of wrapping an extra heavy rail around an overpriced, underperforming compensator?
    I thought the same thing earlier but then I realized that some one new and inexperienced does not know. I remember a time when I thought Bushmaster was as good as anything, even Colt. Many years later I find it hard to believe that I was ever in such a position. I personally know an older ex-Seal who is quite impressed with Bushmasters and the new boutique brands. I don't have the heart reveal my feelings to him about these brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhs1969 View Post
    I thought the same thing earlier but then I realized that some one new and inexperienced does not know. I remember a time when I thought Bushmaster was as good as anything, even Colt. Many years later I find it hard to believe that I was ever in such a position. I personally know an older ex-Seal who is quite impressed with Bushmasters and the new boutique brands. I don't have the heart reveal my feelings to him about these brands.
    My first AR was a DPMS. It only took one range session for me to find out what a POS it was after shit started breaking. We all start somewhere.

    A lot of current and former .MIL guys are not gun guys, and SMU guys are no exception. That's why I take it with a grain of salt whenever I hear how "my best friend's cousin's uncle's nephew was a former DEVGRU CAG RECON SEAL and he loves his Delton!"

    ETA: I'll give AA a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    Eugene Stoner's influence at KAC was very strong, no doubt about it.
    Very long, but lots of good insight, interview with Reed Knight. He does mention Stoner working the SR-15 development.

    http://smallarmsreview.com/display.a...darticles=1211

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