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    Dangerous Precedent: Paramedics to no longer wait and stage during active-shooter

    http://www.firefightingnews.com/para...er-situations/

    There is a dangerous precedent being attempted in some areas, where they are attempting to send unarmed (future victims/victims not shot yet) into harms way.
    What's that Paramedics plan when the guy covering her goes down? Just curious. As a tactical paramedic, actively working as an entry member and SRT medic for 10 years, I have a hard time agreeing with some - mind you some, of the concepts being put forward with these rescue task forces. If you send me into an environment where I need a VEST, and may be exposed to gunfire, then I demand to be able to return some lead pills. Any responders going into the UNRESOLVED, ever changing, unpredictable, hostile and dynamic, disruptive environment of a shooting need to be armed. Remember - be the feeder not the receiver, there are no victims only volunteers, change the circumstances, control the situation and win.

    As a fully trained, armed entry team member I can tell you right now, I would not go into that environment unarmed and untrained. It takes one round to incapacitate the individual covering you, not to mention the non-static environment where you may be required to cover those covering you. Stop messing around and arm them. This conversation is ridiculous and literally being dominated by people with the least amount of experience or training on the issue.

    When they ask you to do this, say this: Nope. Give me a gun and training. Get off your wallet jackass.

    Yes there are a lot of variables and every situation will be unique and different. No one would have went on the raid at Entebbe or Ma'Alot or Beslan unarmed. I remain un-wavered in thinking the precedent is dangerous and all about saving money and image. The decision makers developing and backing this type of response do not want to spend the money to properly arm and train certain responders. EMS and Fire need to stay well outside of the hot and warm zone in most cases, with armed tac medics working on patients in the tactical field care and CASEVAC phases. What do they teach or drill when your field care evolves into care under fire and you start taking rounds? Lay down? Hide behind a cop? Run? There are many capable firefighters who can and would willingly train (take my case) to fulfill the role of armed medic on a tactical team.
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    Last edited by TacMedic556; 02-27-16 at 12:02.

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