http://wikidiff.com/mujahideen/jihadOriginally Posted by KalashniKEV
As nouns the difference between jihad and mujahideen is that jihad is a holy war undertaken by muslims while mujahideen is (islam) muslim holy warriors engaged in a jihad.
As a verb jihad is to participate in a jihad.
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It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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using a SONG that someone wrote in the 1800s and saying that its Christian doctrine ?
hahahahh stretching for the want to beat down ALL religions when this is about ISLAMIC terrorists today in Brussels
should we say well you non religious people are all like hitler or Lenin ?
you share the same I dont like religion after all and since those against religion are the worst in modern history in the last 100 years alone they are responsible for over 100 million killed ?
Originally Posted by Firefly
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While we are at it.
http://www.al-islam.org/a-muslim-in-...bligatory-duty
“O Prophet! Strive hard agaunt the infidels and the hypocrites, and be firm against them, and their abode is hell, and evil is their resort.” Holy Qur'an (66:9)
“Go forth (equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive hard in Allah's cause with your property and own selves; this is better for you, if you know.” Holy Qur'an (9:41)
Jihad is a holy duty made obligatory upon all Muslims by Allah, the Almighty. The Muslims should defend themselves if being attacked in order to preserve their faith, spread Islam, and stand against tyrants and oppressors. Allah made jihad obligatory, in all its forms, whether it is the jihad of society or self, speaking a word for the sake of preserving Islamic call Da'wah, or defending the sanctuaries of the Muslim nation. Jihad is considered among the best forms of worship with Allah, the Most High.
But that must be the Koran brainwashing my narrative again.It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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You're arguing this point with a Muslim.
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If you're trying to convince people to change their opinion of something, you shouldn't insult them in the process.
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So I shouldn't call them a Muslim? Originally Posted by Irish
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Whoa. First off, I am a person of Faith. I believe in God.
But I allot myself some skepticism. I'm pretty sure if we went by Leviticus today that we would all be put to death for something or another.
Psalm 144:1 is about forging oneself for war
The point of Brussels is that people are killing people and somebody needs to fix it.
And I don't think Kev ever said he was a muslim, if he subscribes to a religion, and even so that is still his right.
It was discussed a while back that a Muslim Luther could go a long way here in moderating SWA or at least allowing for a separation of church and state.
Regardless, this is a complex issue with hard consequences that won't be fixed anytime soon unless some serious leadership gets on board.
And we certainly don't have it and probably won't for some time if ever.
I think emotions and prejudice are distracting us from the cold equations of the matter.
I won't say hard feelings aren't warranted to an extent but...I would sooner people be practical.
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Not really directed at you. Originally Posted by Averageman
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Wiki...what? Originally Posted by SteyrAUG
You screwed up again by entering Jihad instead of Jihadi. I'm not sure if it's intentional or if you're just not with it.
Anyway, I typed in "Jihadi" and it corrected to Jihadist and came back with "Carpet Kisser," did you write that?
http://wikidiff.com/mujahid/jihadist
LOL... thanks for bringing that crap site into the discussion... this thread needed a little levity I think.
You're about as good a linguist as you are a straight line thinker. I have to think that this is intentional. Originally Posted by SteyrAUG
Go back and read what I explained to you, but you have chosen to willfully not understand:
A Jihadi is a person engaged in Jihad. This could be Internal Jihad, Social Jihad, Armed Jihad, or whatever injustice that person is struggling against...
Mujahid almost always refers specifically to armed jihad.
I'm Catholic, as I stated several pages ago, but I'm not sure if I'd pass the Steyr-the-Inquisitor's standards. It's his job to determine if a person's professed faith is legitimate or not, right? I sure as hell have done many sinful things in my life. Originally Posted by Firefly
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Just because I don't agree doesn't mean I don't understand. Originally Posted by KalashniKEV
So let's put it this way. "Bushi" and "Samurai" are two different words. They are often the same person, but one has a specific connotation.
It seems you are trying to play a game of semantics where a Jihadi is not always a Mujahadeen. So let me ask you, where are the "non war" Jihadists?
Where are the Jihads to condemn rapists and honor killings among Muslims?
Where are the Jihads to make sure girls are educated?
Where are the Jihads to make sure other cultures are respected?
Seems to me that pretty much all the Jihadis are also Mujahadeen. Of course I raised this very point earlier before you started a word game.
But if you insist that today "Jihad" is nothing more than a middle school kid claiming he deserved a "B" in social studies rather than the "D" he received, then fine. In that instance I will recognize your peaceful Jihad (assuming the kid in question doesn't blow up the school).
But it seems the Koran and most muslims have a different understanding of Jihad.
http://www.al-islam.org/a-muslim-in-...bligatory-duty
Jihad (Holy Struggle) is an Obligatory Duty
“O Prophet! Strive hard agaunt the infidels and the hypocrites, and be firm against them, and their abode is hell, and evil is their resort.” Holy Qur'an (66:9)
“Go forth (equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive hard in Allah's cause with your property and own selves; this is better for you, if you know.” Holy Qur'an (9:41)
Of course I'm sure you will suggest this is nothing more than something like missionary work.It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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