Sons of Liberty Gun Works?

[99cobra2881]

I have had my SOLGW 11.5 M4-76 pistol for about 2 years now I guess. I incrementally built from the complete upper to include a SSA-E trigger, replaced the milspec buffer with an A5-H2 purchased from SOLGW, replaced an 80% lower with an Angry Patriot, all SOLGW blaster guts hardware, modlite phlv2 weapon light (that was purchased from Big Tex Outdoors), a KeyMo Nox (direct from SOLGW), threw a Unity mod button (also Big Tex) on there as well. Purchasing a Deadair Sandman S this spring as well, to finally complete my ultimate blaster.

I worked with Mike every step of the way for this build, knowing that it was going to be a long multi stage effort to get the exact pistol that Mike had described to me back in February of 2019, not because of SOLGW build or shipping times, but because I had to save the money for each stage. Even now when I look at that firearm, I am sometimes shocked at how well the end result matched up to Mike's interpretations of my requirements. It took time, but , it got there. And yes, I was actually on the phone with him working through those requirements, his personal phone to boot. At this point I've got about 2500 rounds through the original upper. Never one issue when using factory ammunition through it.

My only regret 2 years on is not being able to get out to the range more now. Yeah I bought cheap and stacked deep over the last few years, I think I'm sitting on 5k rounds of 5.56 and another 1K of reloads, but in the current market that shit is irreplaceable. Looks like that beauty is going to stay quiet for awhile until the market evens out and sleepy Joe shows his hand with regard to gun control.

You can't really go wrong with a SOLGW build. The guns are as failure proof as imperfect humans can make them. With patience you'll really come out the otherside with something special. Thanks Mike! Thanks SOLGW!

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Great post but its about as worthless as listening to a porn movie. Lol!!!

Post some pictures please

[NoveskeFan]

Picked up my complete 11.5" M4-76 pistol on Monday...might need to change my user name Not sure when I'll get a chance to go to the range, but I'm very impressed with the machining & fit and finish.

[JediGuy]

How much does the 14.7 pencil barrel weigh? Neither your site nor BA has that that I can find.

[motor51]

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[mac324]

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So I picked up this SOLGW pistol a few months back. Manufacturer is stamped Loyal 9 Manufacturing LLC, San Antonio, TX USA (above trigger group). I've been following (on here, social media, etc) SOLGW for a few years now and own another one of their rifles but have never seen a lower with Loyal 9 as the manufacturer. All the Loyal 9 lowers I have seen are always stamped Sons of Liberty Gun Works, San Antonio, TX USA for manufacturer. Basic google search shows the LLC was registered in Feb 2020 with a DBA/alt name of SOLGW. Just curious if anyone has seen these before or the origin/reasoning behind stamping the different name? If recall correctly, Loyal 9 lowers were for LE contracts as an alt to the Angry Patriot. Perhaps this is the next evolution of that? Hopefully the picture comes through, not the best quality camera.

[dan1612]

Cool guns. My agency just took delivery of 200 and I
Owned an 11.5” one. Receiver fit is really impressive. I personally wish they pinned their gas blocks and I wish their barrels were chrome lined. They’re also better gassed than most rifles on the market, but not as well gassed as crane spec DDs or Geisseles.
Fantastic guns for the money.

[SOLGW]

Cool guns. My agency just took delivery of 200 and I
Owned an 11.5” one. Receiver fit is really impressive. I personally wish they pinned their gas blocks and I wish their barrels were chrome lined. They’re also better gassed than most rifles on the market, but not as well gassed as crane spec DDs or Geisseles.
Fantastic guns for the money.

What gas port do you suggest for a 13.7 mid gas rifle?
Thats what your agency took delivery of.
For that amount of dwell time pressurizing a mid gas tube .0785 is pretty mild.
Especially when we pair our guns with heavier buffers.

As for crane spec DD... im guessing you're talking about a 10.3 carbine.
I intentionally gas ours at .073...slightly larger than the .070 on a crane gun. That's because there's no such thing as PMC bronze or Winchester white box in the SEAL teams.
Crane can gas a gun at .070 because all it'll ever see is military pressure ammo.
I opened ours up slightly larger to be more forgiving to wider ammo variety in the civ world, but not so large that it pushes outside of the operational envelope when shooting hot ammo with a suppressor.

We don't pin our gas blocks because it's unnecessary. That gas block is mounted on a dimpled barrel with grade 8 knurled set screws with a locking agent.
It ain't moving unless you tell it to... with tools.
We do pin on request...but it wasn't requested for that contract...and honestly, thats ok.

We use QPQ barrels because the testing overlap between the different barrels didn't justify us going to cold hammer forged chrome lined.
The performance gap that you probably think is there really isn't.

No barrel maker can guarantee a minimum service life on a barrel...
But, unlike most manufacturers I'll just replace a barrel for FREE if you ever shoot one out. Been making that guarantee since day one.
If I was worried about replacing a bunch of barrels I wouldn't make that promise.

Hope you guys enjoy the rifles.

Mike

PS... I hope my tone doesn't come across dickish. Just trying to go point by point on my reply.
Hoping to set up an armorers class down there soon.

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[dan1612]

What gas port do you suggest for a 13.7 mid gas rifle?
Thats what your agency took delivery of.
For that amount of dwell time pressurizing a mid gas tube .0785 is pretty mild.
Especially when we pair our guns with heavier buffers.

As for crane spec DD... im guessing you're talking about a 10.3 carbine.
I intentionally gas ours at .073...slightly larger than the .070 on a crane gun. That's because there's no such thing as PMC bronze or Winchester white box in the SEAL teams.
Crane can gas a gun at .070 because all it'll ever see is military pressure ammo.
I opened ours up slightly larger to be more forgiving to wider ammo variety in the civ world, but not so large that it pushes outside of the operational envelope when shooting hot ammo with a suppressor.

We don't pin our gas blocks because it's unnecessary. That gas block is mounted on a dimpled barrel with grade 8 knurled set screws with a locking agent.
It ain't moving unless you tell it to... with tools.
We do pin on request...but it wasn't requested for that contract...and honestly, thats ok.

We use QPQ barrels because the testing overlap between the different barrels didn't justify us going to cold hammer forged chrome lined.
The performance gap that you probably think is there really isn't.

No barrel maker can guarantee a minimum service life on a barrel...
But, unlike most manufacturers I'll just replace a barrel for FREE if you ever shoot one out. Been making that guarantee since day one.
If I was worried about replacing a bunch of barrels I wouldn't make that promise.

Hope you guys enjoy the rifles.

Mike

PS... I hope my tone doesn't come across dickish. Just trying to go point by point on my reply.
Hoping to set up an armorers class down there soon.

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SOLGW makes fantastic rifles. Period. And from my hometown. I hope to visit next time I go home.
An armorer’s course would be great, you can bet I’ll be there.
As far as gassing, you guys are miles ahead of the market, and I’m glad it’s something you guys address. Having said that, I run almost exclusively suppressed. Suppressed, even crap ammo runs fine out of my 0.070 10.3’s. Steel won’t lock back unsuppressed, but that’s ok. But again, it’s personal preference for a very specific type of setup. The whole market doesn’t have suppressors, or run only mil 556, I get that. My 11.5 was tuned out of the box to run crap ammo unsuppressed at 0.071, which I understand, but I think it could get away with 0.68.

Since the agency guns we’re purchased along with suppressors and there’s even talk about welding them on, they could have been tuned to run that way. Maybe they were, I don’t know, they haven’t been issued yet. Even if not though, I’m sure it’s better than anything else on the market so I have no problem with it. Not that it’s my problem to have. I’m just an end user with tax payer supplied equipment.

I agree that pinning is unnecessary, but I like it. I would’ve specified it, but I wasn’t asked. Lol.
Again: Personal preference.

I prefer chrome because while I hate to admit it, I treat my guns like my lawnmower and chrome gives me a little more peace of mind if I don’t clean after a range trip, or 10. Now whether that’s correct or not, I don’t know. Having said that, your barrel warranty is fantastic.

You’re building guns for the market, not for one picky ass dude. I get that. Regardless, Nothing within twice the price range can touch the build quality. Period.
Thank you for doing it right.

I’m a fan, I hope that comes across and I look forward to meeting you Sir.

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What gas port do you suggest for a 13.7 mid gas rifle?
Thats what your agency took delivery of.
For that amount of dwell time pressurizing a mid gas tube .0785 is pretty mild.
Especially when we pair our guns with heavier buffers.

As for crane spec DD... im guessing you're talking about a 10.3 carbine.
I intentionally gas ours at .073...slightly larger than the .070 on a crane gun. That's because there's no such thing as PMC bronze or Winchester white box in the SEAL teams.
Crane can gas a gun at .070 because all it'll ever see is military pressure ammo.
I opened ours up slightly larger to be more forgiving to wider ammo variety in the civ world, but not so large that it pushes outside of the operational envelope when shooting hot ammo with a suppressor.

We don't pin our gas blocks because it's unnecessary. That gas block is mounted on a dimpled barrel with grade 8 knurled set screws with a locking agent.
It ain't moving unless you tell it to... with tools.
We do pin on request...but it wasn't requested for that contract...and honestly, thats ok.

We use QPQ barrels because the testing overlap between the different barrels didn't justify us going to cold hammer forged chrome lined.
The performance gap that you probably think is there really isn't.

No barrel maker can guarantee a minimum service life on a barrel...
But, unlike most manufacturers I'll just replace a barrel for FREE if you ever shoot one out. Been making that guarantee since day one.
If I was worried about replacing a bunch of barrels I wouldn't make that promise.

Hope you guys enjoy the rifles.

Mike

PS... I hope my tone doesn't come across dickish. Just trying to go point by point on my reply.
Hoping to set up an armorers class down there soon.

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Pinning low profile gas blocks is one of those things that manufactures do for consumers just because they want it. Not because its necessary.
Comparing a pinned FSB that is exposed to LPGB underneath the hanguard is ridiculous.