Can't seem to master the Glock trigger

[Jesse H]

I was shooting XD's for close to 15 years before I became a cop and was issued a Glock. After a slight learning curve with the grip angle and figuring out that I prefer the Glock's faster reset and less over travel I thought I was fine.

So I've been now shooting the Glock platform for a decade and I've never had issues passing patrol or SWAT quals; still don't. Lately I've been going back to basics and can't seem to get my groups centered. I can pass the 10-10-10 drill with just a hair under 10 seconds, my groups are always left of center.

For a while I thought I was going crazy so I brought out an XD9, CZ75 and Ruger 22/45; I'm centered. Gen 3 and Gen 4 Glocks are just left of center. I'm trying more trigger finger to the point I'm on the first crease with no effect on moving POI to the center. With or without gloves I shoot the same. I dry fire plenty, try to get plenty of range time on my own and I think I'm at the point where I'm failing to figure out what's going on so more range time is just repetition of my errors.

PD's firearm instructor (also SWAT team member) suggested more trigger finger. That didn't work and he suggested stronger support grip. That's not working either. I thought I was lining up my sights incorrectly but I'm not having this issue with other platforms.

[Rattlehead]

Just remember smooth and straight back pull. Have you tried using a laser to watch where the dot moves on target when the shot breaks under dry fire?

Also depending on how heavy of a trigger you have (if you're running a stock connector that isn't broken in/polished out) you may find that when the shot breaks the muzzle end may be moving.

[mark7]

I would suggest grabbing a smart phone, installing the coach's eye app, have a friend video you firing at least five rounds and then have a look at the video. Zooming in on your grip and seeing exactly what the gun is doing before, doing and after firing is priceless. Using coach's eye will allow you or an instructor to see things the eye can't.

Since being introduced to the Coach's Eye app by John "Shrek" McPhee a couple years ago, I find the app invaluable as a learning tool for students. Some people can't wrap their head around something unless their brain can see it.

You can also have an analysis of your video done by Shrek at gunfigherU for a fee.

[HeruMew]

I would suggest grabbing a smart phone, installing the coach's eye app, have a friend video you firing at least five rounds and then have a look at the video. Zooming in on your grip and seeing exactly what the gun is doing before, doing and after firing is priceless. Using coach's eye will allow you or an instructor to see things the eye can't.

Since being introduced to the Coach's Eye app by John "Shrek" McPhee a couple years ago, I find the app invaluable as a learning tool for students. Some people can't wrap their head around something unless their brain can see it.

You can also have an analysis of your video done by Shrek at gunfigherU for a fee.

I had no idea. +1 Mark for that great trick/tip.

Thanks OP for throwing out such a great question.

A big thanks to the contributing members, such as Mark and Rattle.

I will be watching this thread for more advice, for my evolution into my Glock 26, that's for sure.

[Coal Dragger]

I know this will be an un popular suggestion since everyone seems to think you always need to modify your self and not the gun: I suggest you get a sight pusher and drift the rear sight.

Stop ****ing around with all the other nonsense if you are shooting your other handguns just fine. If your grip on the Glock is giving you good control, and you're shooting acceptable groups but they are not centered a sight adjustment is in order. I don't know why this concept is so foreign to so may.

Drift your rear sight to the right until your groups are centered. Then test at longer distances in slow fire to verify correct windage adjustment.

You never hear anyone suggest modifying your shooting position with a rifle that is otherwise grouping well, you adjust the damn sights. So try to adjust your pistol sights. It's not particularly difficult.

[samuse]

It's either that gun shoots left (sometimes Glocks really DO).

Or.

Your trigger finger is just axleing the frame and pushing all your shots left. This happens to me if I don't pay attention or shoot Glocks regularly.

My fix? Shoot a Sig.

[P2000]

I learned a lot by shooting magazines mixed with one inert round and the rest live rounds while at the range. That plus dry firing in between magazines was helpful for me.

[Doc Safari]

I learned to treat a Glock trigger like a two-stage trigger. Pull the trigger through the take-up until it starts to "stack". (You will eventually be able to tell when it's going to "break.") Then re-align your sights one more time and pull the trigger the rest of the way until it goes bang. My accuracy vastly improved when I did this.

[mark7]

I had no idea. +1 Mark for that great trick/tip.

Thanks OP for throwing out such a great question.

A big thanks to the contributing members, such as Mark and Rattle.

I will be watching this thread for more advice, for my evolution into my Glock 26, that's for sure.

A quick search of youtube reveal one of McPhee's diagnosis vids

[friendlyfireisnt]

I know this will be an un popular suggestion since everyone seems to think you always need to modify your self and not the gun: I suggest you get a sight pusher and drift the rear sight.

Stop ****ing around with all the other nonsense if you are shooting your other handguns just fine. If your grip on the Glock is giving you good control, and you're shooting acceptable groups but they are not centered a sight adjustment is in order. I don't know why this concept is so foreign to so may.

Drift your rear sight to the right until your groups are centered. Then test at longer distances in slow fire to verify correct windage adjustment.

You never hear anyone suggest modifying your shooting position with a rifle that is otherwise grouping well, you adjust the damn sights. So try to adjust your pistol sights. It's not particularly difficult.

I actually agree a bit. It's one thing to fix some fundamental issues that are causing inconsistent results. It's another thing to fight yourself to try to center the grouping. Now, if there was inconsistent groups, or if it was a major shift, that would be the time to work on technique.

I have a very slight drift on both my G19 sights, a nearly imperceptible amount, but that's all it took. I tried all the recommended techniques, but prior to drifting the sights, they both shot just a hair left no matter what I did. Now they hit consistent POA/POI @ 15 yards with my preferred defensive ammo.