Gary Johnson polling at 15% (was 13%)

Originally Posted by WillBrink

See: http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

Guns, he's GTG as you're going to find. Some of his positions are spot on, some not so much, but if we want the two party death grip on our system broken, there we have it. He aint perfect by any means, but being Libertarian oriented as I am (or more like old school GOP which was fiscally "conservative" and socially "liberal" before right wing neocons took it over...) I'll be happy to take my chances 100 times over with Johnson vs Trump or HC.

I'm 85% with Johnson on the issues. We part ways on some aspects of drug laws and some of his immigration policy. For example, I'm open to decriminalization of pot but not legalization of hard drugs. When it comes to immigration, we differ on border security and probably the number of work visas that need to be issued. Otherwise, I could go down the list and check virtually all the other boxes including basic human decency - something that I can't do for the major party candidates.

Saw this and thought it was interesting cause I only see people saying Johnson is the savior.

There Is No Logic in Voting for Gary Johnson
http://libertyhangout.org/2016/07/th...-gary-johnson/

Originally Posted by rocsteady

If this guy really wanted a chance then he should have been there from the beginning

Umm, he was...

How many congressional districts has the Liberterian party ever carried? Why a Libby president, when they can hardly carry districts.

The ultimate Hail Mary but instead you make the other team lose.

Originally Posted by Double3

Saw this and thought it was interesting cause I only see people saying Johnson is the savior.

There Is No Logic in Voting for Gary Johnson
http://libertyhangout.org/2016/07/th...-gary-johnson/

I decent read, but nothing I didn't know and the author offers no solutions. Make no mistake, Johnson is no pure Libertarian and per the vid, two time GOP Gov.

He's far from Libertarian ideal, but far closer than HC or Trump, that's for damn sure. So, the author offers nothing but:

Vote for HC or Trump
Stay home and feel morally superior because Johnson not ideal Libertarian candidate.

Obviously, most voting for HC or Trump are well aware neither candidate even close to the ideal of the parties.

Originally Posted by WillBrink

Vote for HC or Trump
Stay home and feel morally superior because Johnson not ideal Libertarian candidate.

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Or feel morally superior cause you voted for Johnson and can sit and say I told you so to everyone else when one of the other 2 win.

That's the impression I get from a lot of Johnson supporters.

Honestly IMO there is one person that can't be president. That's what I tell people that ask me about it.

Originally Posted by WillBrink

Umm, he was...

Ummm, don't recall seeing him on stage. Your name on a flyer taped to a telephone pole in Virginia doesn't count. Or did I miss him altogether and he was on stage, maybe the undercard? I don't remember seeing him anywhere.

Originally Posted by Double3

Or feel morally superior cause you voted for Johnson and can sit and say I told you so to everyone else when one of the other 2 win.

That's the impression I get from a lot of Johnson supporters.

Honestly IMO there is one person that can't be president. That's what I tell people that ask me about it.

You posted an article for which the author ranted about how Johnson is not a true Libertarian (and he's correct) but offered zero solutions, such as recommending people vote for X instead, unless I missed it. Hence, those are the choices that exist to people. Vote for what they consider lesser of two evils (and some would argue a vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil) or vote their conscience and let the chips fall where they may. All I'd like to see at this point is Johnson in the debates at this point. I'd consider that alone a major achievement consider the death grip the Dem/GOP have on the system.

Originally Posted by WillBrink

Vote for HC or Trump
Stay home and feel morally superior because Johnson not ideal Libertarian candidate.

IMO, people should be strategic.

I'm probably gonna pull the trigger for Johnson but that's because there's no way in hell AL will go for Hilldog. It gives the LP some help in getting exposure without too much risk of putting Hillary in the WH.

If I was in a battleground state where every vote matters, I'd rethink that plan to keep Hilldog out....

Originally Posted by rocsteady

Ummm, don't recall seeing him on stage. Your name on a flyer taped to a telephone pole in Virginia doesn't count. Or did I miss him altogether and he was on stage, maybe the undercard? I don't remember seeing him anywhere.

Then maybe you need to research a tad more what it takes to get on stage, and of course the fact the media is run/owned by one of the two major parties and ignores third party candidates. He's just started getting some traction with the media for various reasons. I added links to check out above also by mainstream media outlets also.