Which carry pistol if limited to 10 rounds?

[Irfan]

I feel that it is very possible that the USA will be facing another federal Hi-cap magazines ban in not so distant future... Maybe I am wrong but we might be facing it just after the coming elections. Do you believe if that happens that the 1911 will become even more popular and used as a CCW even more than it is today? In such event would you rather carry a 10 round 92FS, P226 or CZ75 or even a G17/19 (I hope Glock will design a reliable 10 round magazine) over a 1911 in 9mm or .45? There are some nice 9mm 1911s today like Dan Wesson Specialist or this one for example: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...l-ss-9mm-1911/ Which one would you choose as your go to gun?

[Hmac]

I prize convenience, concealability, and flexibility...can't even imagine carrying a 1911. I carry a Walther PPS and prefer the 7 round magazine. After all these years, I have yet to discern a reason to rethink that choice. I don't consider magazine capacity to be a significant factor in civilian concealed-carry.

[BuzzinSATX]

If magazine capacity were the main factor,we'd all be carrying guns with 17+ round capacity. But size, conceal ability, shoot ability, personal preference still rule IMO.

I think folks who carry 1911's carry them because they prefer them. That's fine by me. I don't think folks who carry G19|P229|PPQ|XDs will necessarily change because of a mag cap limit law (at least I won't).

That said, if we go to another high capacity ban or 10 rounds, the advantage of a G19 over a G30 decreases significantly, at least in my mind.


Take Care,

Buzz

[Big A]

Irfan,

Why would you want a 9mm that is the size of a 45 ACP when you can chose from any of the following?:

Walther PPS M1/M2
Walther CCP
S&W Shield
Glock 43
Ruger LC9s
Springfield XDs 9
Khar CW9

Plus a few other less than optimal choices in the single stack 9mm market.

You don't need the permission of this forum to buy a 1911 chambered in 9mm, but buying one for CC work when there are already better choices on the market for the job just seems odd to me. Especially when you are making the decision based on fears that may never become law. Your post makes it sound like We The People will be barred from owning and carrying standard capacity mags which would be hard for the federal government to do. At most they could stop the sale of new standard capacity mags but they'll have a hard time rounding up all the ones already in circulation.

[Irfan]

Irfan,

Why would you want a 9mm that is the size of a 45 ACP when you can chose from any of the following?:

Walther PPS M1/M2
Walther CCP
S&W Shield
Glock 43
Ruger LC9s
Springfield XDs 9
Khar CW9

Plus a few other less than optimal choices in the single stack 9mm market.

You don't need the permission of this forum to buy a 1911 chambered in 9mm, but buying one for CC work when there are already better choices on the market for the job just seems odd to me. Especially when you are making the decision based on fears that may never become law. Your post makes it sound like We The People will be barred from owning and carrying standard capacity mags which would be hard for the federal government to do. At most they could stop the sale of new standard capacity mags but they'll have a hard time rounding up all the ones already in circulation.

I like full size pistols. Regarding the ban, I may be paranoid but I expect they'll ban all guns eventually...

[Arik]

Hk P2000 (9/40), HK45c, HK
USP45, HK 45, HK P30sk all come in 10 round mag options.

G30, G26,

CZ Rami

All the ones Big A listed

There are many options available and I'm probably forgetting a lot

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[MountainRaven]

The late Todd Green's last carry gun was an Heirloom Precision 1911 in 9mm. He made the trade-off of capacity for practical accuracy happily without any pressure from the government for a reduced magazine capacity.

If I were stuck with a 10-round capacity limit, I would buy a Wilson Lightweight Commander-type gun in 9mm. (Full-size aluminum frame, 4.25" barrel, GI guide rod with flat spring.)

Otherwise, full-size, steel-frame 45 1911 (which I already carry), an M&P45 (whichever size makes you happy), or an H&K HK45C or USP45C. I suppose you could carry a full-size HK45, but that one seems a bit big even to me. Or an H&K P7PSP/P7M8, if I could find one or H&K brings them back or licenses their manufacture to somebody stateside.

That being said, I have a buddy who bought a bunch of 10-round magazines for his G19 when he moved to California and left his 15-rounders with his parents, here in Montana. I would rather pick an H&K for reduced capacity magazines, as I have more faith in their reduced cap magazines working well than the Glock magazines.

[TMS951]

Glock 19 with a 10 round mag. Glock 19 with a pre-ban hi-cap magazine out of my crate of hi cap mags.

There are number of compacts chambered in .45 that hold ten rounds. These may be worth looking at, but for me I prefer the controllability of 9mm. Recently sold my HK 45c, just din't do it for me.

Question, if you think there will be a ban, and I'm with you on this, why not purchase mags now as opposed to finding a new gun? The 600$ average for a new gun buys you 24 17rnd mags for your Glock 17. If you use each mag 100 times (seems a fair service life), and you have 24 mags, thats 40,800 rounds of shooting.

The 1911 will never be popular do to its size weight and finickiness.

[MountainRaven]

Glock 19 with a 10 round mag. Glock 19 with a pre-ban hi-cap magazine out of my crate of hi cap mags.

There are number of compacts chambered in .45 that hold ten rounds. These may be worth looking at, but for me I prefer the controllability of 9mm. Recently sold my HK 45c, just din't do it for me.

Question, if you think there will be a ban, and I'm with you on this, why not purchase mags now as opposed to finding a new gun? The 600$ average for a new gun buys you 24 17rnd mags for your Glock 17. If you use each mag 100 times (seems a fair service life), and you have 24 mags, thats 40,800 rounds of shooting.

The 1911 will never be popular do to its size weight and finickiness.

I'd bet that the 1911 is still the best selling pistol in America, in spite of weight and "finickiness".

And the 1911 conceals far better than its size might appear to indicate.

[26 Inf]

I'd bet that the 1911 is still the best selling pistol in America, in spite of weight and "finickiness".

And the 1911 conceals far better than its size might appear to indicate.

Didn't even make one list, maybe too many people don't like the 'two is one, one is none' holy grail of the Govt Model aficionado:

The 5 Best-Selling Guns of 2015

There are probably as many favorite guns among firearms enthusiasts as there are models manufactured. One way to determine what the "best" gun is is to see what people are buying. But that's not a straightforward endeavor.

For example, Smith & Wesson reported that fiscal-second-quarter sales were driven 15% higher by demand for its polymer shield and M&P models, while Ruger pointed to demand for its new AR-556 modern sporting rifle and LC9 pistol as reason sell-through from independent distributors to retailers jumped 28% in its last period. But with the bulk of the balance of the industry privately held, it's hard to get a read on who's buying what.

So I turned to GunBroker.com, the world's largest online auction site for firearms and accessories, which every month publishes the five best-selling firearms on its site. While it lists the leaders in every major category of firearms sold, breaking them down between new, used, and a combination of the two, for this list I limited the selection to the five best-selling new, semi-automatic pistols. However, GunBroker.com doesn't list specific numbers for the guns sold. No raw unit totals or total dollar values. So what I did was compile all the monthly lists and broke it down into which gun landed in the top spot the most number of times. Then I looked at which was No. 2 most often; which was third, and so on.

I then arbitrarily assigned a value to each slot. A first-place finish got 5 points; second place, 4 points; third, 3, and so on. I then tallied the results and picked out the top five guns for 2015 (January to November). Nineteen different gun models from eight separate manufacturers appeared on the list. Here are the top five best-selling new semiautomatic pistols on my list, in reverse order.

Fourth Place (tie): Smith & Wesson M&P9 and Sig Sauer P938. Neither gun landed in the top spot over the course of the year, but the models were gun buyers' second and third choices most often. The M&P9 is Smith & Wesson's direct challenge to Glock in the low-cost polymer frame segment and its lightweight design has helped the gunmaker enjoy tremendous growth as handgun sales have taken off.

In contrast, Sig Sauer's P938 is a hammer-fired, single-action semi-auto, with aluminum alloy frame and steel slide. It's super-lightweight and designed for concealed carry.

Third Place: Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield. This is S&W's answer to the concealed-carry gun niche that is exploding. So popular are its Shield models that during the second quarter the gunmaker produced its one millionth model, which it says makes it "the best-selling personal protection and self-defense pistol" on the market.

Second Place: Taurus PT-111 Millenium G2. Yet another gun designed for the concealed carry market, the Taurus PT-111 is available in 9mm and built on a lightweight polymer platform in a subcompact form factor. Its appearance on the list would surprise many gun enthusiasts, but the fact it was the favorite gun four months in a row probably raised even more eyebrows, though it also attested to the gun's meeting a specific need in the market.

First Place: Kel Tec PMR-30. This might not have been the gun many would have expected to top the list, but the Kel Tec PMR-30 dominated sales at GunBroker.com this year, coming in first place more times than any other model (five), and regularly being a gun buyer's second or third choice. The Kel Tec was also on the top-five list more often than any other model (eight), and unlike Smith & Wesson, Ruger, or Sig Sauer, which each had three different models appear at any time over the course of the year, it was only the Kel Tec PMR-30 that gun buyers wanted.

What pushes gun enthusiasts to want the Kel Tec is its light weight. Even fully loaded with 30 double-stacked .22 Magnum rounds (.22 WMR), its glass-reinforced nylon Zytel frame is lighter than many polymer-frame guns, yet there's a distinct lack of recoil when fired. It's also pretty accurate.

Gun sales have never been greater. The FBI is on track to conduct more background checks on gun buyers this year than at any other time, even more than the record number of investigations performed in 2013. While GunBroker.com will release its best-selling firearm for 2015 next month, there's a good bet it will be one of those here. And considering how often the Kel Tec PMR-30 has topped the lists so far, I'd be surprised if it wasn't the overall choice of gun buyers everywhere.

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...s-of-2015.aspx

Here is Gunbroker's monthly breakdown:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Content/Top...op-5-Guns.html

Sometimes you need to remember that most gun purchasers don't know much if anything about firearms, are more likely to be swayed more by price than quality, and probably aren't on a gun forum. We be the minority.