Making G19 trigger more like a VP9

**Jaysop** · 06-03-16, 19:56

So I have both a Gen4 G19 and a VP9. I actually prefer the way the Glock fits in my hand but the trigger isn't working for me. This is my second Gen4 G19 and my first had a much better trigger.
I have shot and dry fired the shit out of this thing and it's not smoothing out. I can't pass the old dime on the front sight trick. The last hump before the break is heavy as hell. It's almost impossible for me to keep the front sight from shifting.
The trigger on the VP9 on the other hand is perfect for me.
Without modding the hell out of my Glock, which is my go to pistol, how can I make it more VP9ish? I don't want to start filing things down and adding aftermarket parts to it if at all possible.
I've done a lot of searches and most people are recommending these aftermarket triggers and I'm not sure I'm to comfortable with that.

**opngrnd** · 06-03-16, 20:06

OEM 3.5 connector, Gen 3 smooth face trigger bar. Then go put 1K rounds through it. I don't know what the VP9 trigger feels like when worn in, but if the previously mentioned configuration doesn't work out for you, G19s might not be your ticket. I'm a 1911 guy, but having started working in with a G19 set up as mentioned, I'm starting to match my par times set with the 1911s not wearing fiber optic sights.

For what it's worth, I'm running a .125 wide 10-8 fiber optic front and a 10-8 .156 rear sight.

**opngrnd** · 06-03-16, 20:11

Let me add that I didn't turn a corner in shooting Glocks until I started thinking of the trigger as more of a light double action trigger, as opposed to having any "break". The unfortunate side effect of 1911s is that other platforms feel like they have mushy triggers or that they lack "breaking the shot" because they all feel comparably mushy.

**Zirk208** · 06-03-16, 20:17

Ghost connector. I believe I added the "ultimate" to my 26. Smoothed out the "hump" and final break quite a bit.
If you've dry fired it zillions of times and nothing is improving, then maybe it's time to take this relationship to the next level. start small, no need to throw tons of money or change everything.

**Jaysop** · 06-03-16, 20:32

I've seen a lot about the Ghost connectors but there are so many of them. I don't even know where to start with those.
This is going to be a carry gun and I don't want a super light trigger pull.

**Zirk208** · 06-03-16, 20:57

Originally Posted by Jaysop

I've seen a lot about the Ghost connectors but there are so many of them. I don't even know where to start with those.
This is going to be a carry gun and I don't want a super light trigger pull.

I went by this--> http://static---ghostinc.app-hosted....ITEV3_copy.pdf
and bought the "best" drop in model that didn't require any fitting.

**n517rv** · 06-03-16, 21:00

You may want to check out the GHOST 4.5 Ranger Trigger. You can see descriptions and reviews at Brownells:

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par...prod25315.aspx

**bjxds** · 06-03-16, 21:02

Following with interest. Google this, "Debunking the gen 4 trigger-connector misconceptions - my 3 part video explains..", I thought it was interesting.

I had a Gen 4 with a Ghost connector, and it was worse, replaced it with the stock and it went from terrible to not good. I have been trying to get the Gen 4 trigger like my Gen 3 but NO Luck so far. Next step is to replace the FP, FPS, trigger bar assembly, connector and Trigger spring on the Gen 4 with the Gen 3 and see what happens. The Gen 4 is not terrible but not as smooth and over a pound heavier, doesn't sound like much but it feels like 2-3 lbs more. Overall the Gen 4 is just not as smooth as the Gen 3 in reference to trigger pull, racking the slide and mag release....AND it just bugs the shit out of me.

Not sure what is going on. I shot another Gen 4 that was definitely better than mine.

IMHO I think Glock QC aint what it use to be. Good news is, it easy to get parts, and shit simple to work on.

**teksid** · 06-03-16, 21:04

If the break is what is what's getting you I suggest a Ghost EVO Elite. It has to be fitted though. If you want a drop in go with the Ghost Edge 3.5. It does a good job of eliminating the bump. I think I've tried most of the available connectors and it's one of the best for me.
Having said that I carry a stock triggered G19.4. I polished the internals and put a couple cases of ammo through it and it smoothed out pretty good........ or I just got used to it.
I actually shoot it better than my VP9. It might just be a familiarity thing though.