It's the same old story there is never a rarely device for every situation. I do like the Condor Speedy 2 point it's great for adjustability and hiking around with the rifle ready. That said the stability I get with a loop is hard to beat. I've tried using the adjustable loop closure/pull tab space as a loop, but it's just not tight enough. Anyone have any smart rigging ideas how I might combine both? I know there are some smart people here and I'm certain I'm not the only old fart who grew up learning with a loop sling who misses it? Thanks all