Arnold: The Vegetarian ....

[Det-Sog]

To hell with Arnold and global warming, I'll keep eating meat. In fact I finally drew an antelope tag and will buy an elk tag over the counter. Back strap, its whats for dinner.

This! Yummy.

P.E.T.A. = People Eating Tasty Animals.

I DO agree though that more fruits and veggies are a must though. I will still NEVER give up meat though.

[JusticeM4]

???? Being vegetarian or vegan does not equate to being a pacifist. All the vegans and vegetarians i personally know (including myself) keep arms for self protection from 2 AND 4 legged threats.

It was an opinion as I stated. You are most definitely welcome to do as you wish.

[6933]

Saddening is the lack of coherence in whatever you wrote there.

Laugh!

I think some hamburger hit the screen when I read this.

[J-Dub]

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-0...k-about-plants

Well I've heard of the theory that plants can and do feel pain, but could there be studies out there trying to prove it? I guess so.

You see the overwhelming flaw of the entire "vegan" scene is, they don't want to harm a living creature (ie things with eyes I guess) to survive. Well if you take a step back and look at the world, that some believe was formed by a divine plan, that is the very basis if life. To have life, is to have death. It sucks, but its just how the planet works.

[WS6]

Has Arnold gone vegetarian? Sorta. Of course he built his body eating meat, as have some other well known bbers, such as Bill Pearl, who went vegetarian after their bbing careers. So, the very career and many millions Arnold made due to his body, now doing public service messages on meat. In my view, that's a tad hypocritical, but people's positions on things do change with age, and Arnold is no different. One could argue he could have built that body not eating meat, but that's a different issue for another day....(1)

Is that a bad thing? Not really. Most people should eat less meat and more plant based foods, which will be better for both health and the environment. Arnold is actually taking a fairly balanced approach to this issue, but no doubt, will be taken out of context by many.

Two, people should also remember, Arnold is a bber and action movie star and generally all around cool guy (met him several times), but he's no scientist. I don't know if this recent change of dietary focus on pro environment status will lead to Arnold becoming some militant vegan, but I doubt it.

Arnold is right: Most people should eat less meat and more plant based foods (ye fruits and vegetables...) for both health and environmental reasons, but there's no reason what so ever to be a vegetarian, much less a vegan, and It does not sound as if that's Arnold's message.



(1) My take on that issue can be found:

http://www.brinkzone.com/general-hea...tes-the-facts/

I grew up Vegetarian for the first decade or so of my life. It was influenced by the health message of the church my parents belonged to (Seventh Day Adventist). Although, if you know anything of them, being a vegetarian is encouraged, but certainly not mandatory, and this differs by region, and culture (Filipino SDA churches are certainly not veg.)

That said, I later in life became an atheist, and eat all manner of meat. My teeth are shaped to allow me to eat plants, and meat, and my digestive tract is similarly structured. I was meant to eat both, and in moderation, at that.

I think moderation is a great approach to many things in life, and what you put in your body, is certainly one of those things. Many health studies on the SDA church and its members show roughly a 7year longer life expectancy, however, the church also teaches temperance in smoking and drinking, as well, and to be honest, I truly did note that very very very few church member smoked at any church I attended that was SDA. Some drank, but hardly any smoked. Huge impact.

I did also note a few members go vegan, who previously ate rather "liberally" of meat. They were a couple. One was a teacher/wife type, and one was a mechanic. The mechanic and teacher both lost weight. However, the teacher began to look healthy and trim, while the mechanic took on more of a skinny/sickly look. I suspect they both lost significant strength, although they claimed they felt better. The other case study is a girl I dated while in the church. Her whole family was vegetarian. I noted no positive results, as she was overweight, as was her mother (not greatly, but lacking muscle mass and over-fat, for sure), and the father, while strong no doubt, also carried a bit of a stomach (not much, I'd call him "typical active Dad"). The younger siblings were not very strong, but looked rather typical.

In short, I feel that "vegetarian" means zip. You can still eat a ton of crap that will make you look and perform like crap.

Another case study is my father, who ate plenty of crap, as he escorted trucks. He had a heart-cath performed about 5 years ago, and it was perfect. Flawless.

My point? Individuals as well as moderation are worth more consideration than any sort of "dietary rules".

However, you will never find a big vegan bodybuilder. They may be strong, fast, ripped, but they aren't big (in comparison). Period. End of story.


I would also like to supply this handy video detailing how to become a vegetarian, if it interests any of you:

[WillBrink]

I grew up Vegetarian for the first decade or so of my life. It was influenced by the health message of the church my parents belonged to (Seventh Day Adventist). Although, if you know anything of them, being a vegetarian is encouraged, but certainly not mandatory, and this differs by region, and culture (Filipino SDA churches are certainly not veg.)

That said, I later in life became an atheist, and eat all manner of meat. My teeth are shaped to allow me to eat plants, and meat, and my digestive tract is similarly structured. I was meant to eat both, and in moderation, at that.

Humans are omnivores period. There's no debate what so ever in the sci/med community of that. Every claim made otherwise was debunked a long time ago, but often repeated by those with serious cognitive dissonance who wish to support their beliefs vs what we know of human physiology. If people wish to be vegans due to moral/religious reasons that's their biz, if they are doing it due to some belief "humans are not meant to eat meat" nonsense, than they are incorrect period.

[Amicus]

WS6,

That video was pretty damn funny. I will recommend it to Son of Commander Paisley.

[WS6]

WS6,

That video was pretty damn funny. I will recommend it to Son of Commander Paisley.