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Thread: Leaving a round chambered for extended periods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickdrak View Post
    Apples & Oranges.

    Your pistol is in a holster attached to your person. You should be doing a chamber check everyday before you insert your pistol into your holster.

    The OP stated that he goes to the range 4-5 times a year, and between range sessions he leaves his rifle stored for several months at a time as a "Home defense" rifle.
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    The thread did wander from what the OP posited, and I was responding to what another poster stated. So, if your comments were only directed at the OP, then my bad. Reading them again, however, they still seem directed at my/and another posters HD situation. You may able to do all the things you stated above in the dark immediately and still adequately defend yourself, but guys like me cannot and need every extra second; thus, my AR remains chamber loaded safety on while by my side, and in my safe when not by my side. I do press checks on my pistols and chamber checks on my AR every day. But Apples to Oranges is fine with me. And I can go home now, so Happy Day After Labor Day.

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    My comments were directed at the OP, as I feel that mode of storage for a home defense weapon is extremely relevant to this discussion.

    My AR is locked up in my safe over night, but it is stored "cruiser ready" with the ChamberSafe inserted, and available if I need it. I have my Benelli M1 12gauge as my "Home defense" gun close by. I keep it stored similarly with an empty chamber/safety ON, loaded magazine tube, and 1 shell in the carrier ready to be racked into the chamber.

    My bedside gun is my M&P45 duty pistol with a SF X300 attached. Loded magazine, loaded chamber. Chamber is checked every day prior to going into work.

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    Smile

    Like I said, whatever you do, do it the same way everytime.

    I was taught to keep the chamber empty and I've always done it this way. (The LEO argument was to keep every longarm the same so if another officer grabs it, he knows what to expect.)

    I'm too old to change now and I don't want to be thinking about that when my dogs wake me up in the middle of the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlficken View Post
    I'm curious what drop safe matters? I don't plan on dropping it. . .
    People don't plan on being in motor vehicle accidents, but shit happens.

    Some of the posters have missed the point completely. It appears some SERIOUS training is in order. I'm just saying . . .

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    Not sure why you need to check the round in the chamber every night? I load it once, check it and it's done and ready. Put it in the holster and I don't fiddle with it, until I goto the range and practice with the same pistol, or unload to clean.

    Quote Originally Posted by nickdrak View Post
    My comments were directed at the OP, as I feel that mode of storage for a home defense weapon is extremely relevant to this discussion.

    My AR is locked up in my safe over night, but it is stored "cruiser ready" with the ChamberSafe inserted, and available if I need it. I have my Benelli M1 12gauge as my "Home defense" gun close by. I keep it stored similarly with an empty chamber/safety ON, loaded magazine tube, and 1 shell in the carrier ready to be racked into the chamber.

    My bedside gun is my M&P45 duty pistol with a SF X300 attached. Loded magazine, loaded chamber. Chamber is checked every day prior to going into work.

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    Here is some food for thought. When I was in the Coast Guard the M16 was carried in what we called the "standard method of carry". This consisted of an empty chamber, fully loaded magazine and weapon on safe.

    1. The key word here is standard. Every Coast Guardsman knew that when they assumed control of the weapon what condition it was in.

    2. Another reason for this is the M16 has a non-positive safety.

    3. Here in Iraq our SOP is that when you roll out for a movement, the weapon is loaded, loaded magazine in place, weapon safe.

    4. Inside the compound the weapon is unloaded, magazine in place.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MX5 View Post
    ARs are not drop safe.
    END OF STORY.

    I'm with the others for storage on all my ARs.. even the one next to my bed.... Loaded mag chamber empty.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by AwaySooner View Post
    Not sure why you need to check the round in the chamber every night? I load it once, check it and it's done and ready. Put it in the holster and I don't fiddle with it, until I goto the range and practice with the same pistol, or unload to clean.
    Call me crazy, but if I need to use my pistol to defend my life in my home, while at work, or someone elses life while on duty, I want to make sure that it is going to go bang when I need it to. There is always the possibility that you unloaded it for some reason, and failed to reload it before trouble comes looking for you.

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    I was kinda wondering about that....Is it really necessary to check every day? (Mine all have a loaded chamber indicator). IMHO, if you own a firearm, you should know what "condition" it's in at all times, but if that gives you a warm and fuzzy, then good on you.

    Quote Originally Posted by nickdrak View Post
    My bedside gun is my M&P45 duty pistol with a SF X300 attached. Loded magazine, loaded chamber. Chamber is checked every day prior to going into work.
    For God and the soldier we adore, In time of danger, not before! The danger passed, and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier slighted." - Rudyard Kipling

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    Quote Originally Posted by rharris2163 View Post
    I was kinda wondering about that....Is it really necessary to check every day? (Mine all have a loaded chamber indicator). IMHO, if you own a firearm, you should know what "condition" it's in at all times, but if that gives you a warm and fuzzy, then good on you.
    First of all, chamber loaded indicators, like some manual safetys can fail. Second, I didn't understand nickdrak to be saying that people should perform a press check every day "just for fun to get warm and fuzzy" but before he goes to work. I do a press check, as most of the LE in Arizona are trained to do, before they holster their pistol to make sure a round is loaded. Some even drop the mag and re-insert it to make sure it is seated properly. As you know, feeding and mag problems are the most likely causes of malfs, and a simple press check and mag check before being placed in the holster is a minimum of effort for a lot of insurance. And you can think you know what "condition" your firearm is in all the time, but I have reviewed and read too many cases of LEO's and CO's who knew their handgun was unloaded before an ND, or were sure their handgun was loaded before they needed to fire and the trigger either didn't pull or it went click. There are some officers who take the traditional press check (as well as verifying an unloaded pistol) one step further by inserting their index finger to actually feel that a loaded round is in the chamber (the eyes don't always tell the truth) or is not in the chamber.

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