Work In Progress: new F1/F4 guide for 41F submissions

[BigWaylon]

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, I do not work for the ATF, and I hold no FFL of any type. I’m simply going to provide the explanations below based on the instructions on the forms themselves.

It seems that a lot of the questions that get asked/answered about filling out forms are because the person submitting the form either doesn’t read the instructions or simply is seeking confirmation of what to do. I am simply going to try to explain it as clear as I can using the ATF’s own words when possible. I will provide the reference to an instruction when necessary.

There are lots of guides on how to fill out the current forms, and a good bit of the info hasn’t changed. In an effort for this to be a one-stop shop, I’ll still cover all sections.

I am not going to get too deep into some topics, rather just present the data in black and white. For example, I’ll address three things here and then simply mention them later:

1. Fingerprints. The new wording is identical to the old wording. It simply says the person must be “properly” equipped to take the fingerprints. It does not say certified, trained, qualified, or any other word. Therefore, the assumption is if you could roll your own prints before these new forms existed, you should be able to roll them afterwards. Time will tell, or maybe the ATF publishes an answer.

2. Photos. The wording again stays the same. Simply a 2”x2” passport-style photo. In the past, many people have submitted their own, some even printing the pic directly onto the form. I even know people that print them out on normal paper and duct tape them to the form. Others obviously use a service as your local pharmacy, USPS, etc…anywhere that does official passport photos.

3. Responsible persons. This is a term that has had a lot of discussions trying to decide who fits the definition. Concerning a trust, the general explanation is that anyone who is a trustee is an RP, while those that are only successor trustees or beneficiaries are not. Corporations and LLCs will have different rules. I’m sure plenty of lawyers will play games with the legalese and try to minimize the number of people that qualify. All I can say is that the ATF’s definition from the F1/F4 reads as follows:

Responsible Person. In the case of an unlicensed entity, including any trust, partnership, association, company (including any Limited Liability Company (LLC)), or corporation, any individual who possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust or entity to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of, the trust or legal entity. In the case of a trust, those persons with the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust includes any person who has the capability to exercise such power and possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority under any trust instrument, or under State law, to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of the trust. Examples of who may be considered a responsible person include settlors/grantors, trustees, partners, members, officers, directors, board members, or owners. An example of who may be excluded from this definition of responsible person is the beneficiary of a trust, if the beneficiary does not have the capability to exercise the enumerated powers or authorities.

The write-up will be split into multiple posts...so you can scroll down, or use the direct links below:
How to fill out a Form 1 as an Individual
How to fill out a Form 1 as an Entity
How to fill out a Form 4 as an Individual
How to fill out a Form 4 as an Entity
How to fill out a 5320.23 (Responsible Person Questionnaire)
State-level CLEO information
How to fill out an FD-258LE Fingerprint Card
How to fill out a 5320.20
Sample Form 1 & RPQ

Layout, as you’ll see, will be one section of the form followed by instructions. May end up doing the screenshots with words on them at some point, but I think they may be too busy at this point.

The following info is directly from ATF.gov (direct link: here)

FINAL Rule 41F – Background Checks for Responsible Persons – Effective July 13 2016
On January 4, 2016, the Attorney General signed ATF Final Rule 41F, Machineguns, Destructive Devices and Certain Other Firearms; Background Checks for Responsible Persons of a Trust or Legal Entity With Respect To Making or Transferring a Firearm, amending the regulations regarding the making or transferring of a firearm under the National Firearms Act (NFA). The goal of the final rule is to ensure that the identification and background check requirements apply equally to individuals, trusts, and legal entities who apply to make or receive NFA firearms.

Please note, the forms in PDF format below are not fully Section 508 compliant. We are working quickly to ensure they are accessible for all users of our site.

PLEASE NOTE: Final Rule 41F becomes effective JULY 13, 2016. Applications received with a post-mark of July 13, 2016 and after will be processed according to the specifications of 41F.

How Does Final Rule 41F Change Current NFA Regulations?
The final rule affects the NFA regulations by:
- defining the term “responsible person,” as used in reference to a trust, partnership, association, company, or corporation;
- requiring responsible persons of such trusts or legal entities to complete ATF form 5320.23, National Firearms Act Responsible Person Questionnaire and to submit photographs and fingerprints when the trust or legal entity files an application to make an NFA firearm or is listed as the transferee on an application to transfer an NFA firearm;
- requiring that a copy of all applications to make or transfer a firearm, and the specified form for responsible persons (5320.23), be forwarded to the chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) of the locality in which the applicant/transferee or responsible person resides; and
- eliminating the requirement for certification signed by the CLEO.
- In addition, the final rule adds a new section to ATF’s regulations to address the possession and transfer of firearms registered to a decedent.

Who is a Responsible Person?
In the case of an unlicensed entity, including any trust, partnership, association, company (including any Limited Liability Company (LLC)), or corporation, any individual who possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority to direct the management and polices of the trust or entity to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of, the trust or legal entity.

In the case of a TRUST, those persons with the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust include any person who has the capability to exercise such power and possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority under any trust instrument, or under State law, to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of, the trust.

Examples of who may be considered a responsible person of a trust or legal entity include:
- Settlors/Grantors
- Trustees
- Partners
- Members
- Officers
- Board members
- Owners
- Beneficiaries – if said beneficiary has the capability to exercise any of the powers or authorities enumerated above.

What Do NFA Trust or Legal Entity Applicants Affected by the Change Need to Know?
If you are:
- applying as a trust or legal entity to make and register an NFA firearm on a Form 1, or
- receiving an NFA firearm in the name of a trust or other legal entity as the transferee on a Form 4, or Form 5,
the following information is applicable to your applications:
---- all responsible persons named in the trust or legal entity are required to undergo a background check.
---- all responsible persons must complete the Form 5320.23 with photo attached and provide two FD-258 fingerprint cards in order to initiate the required background check. Fingerprint cards may be ordered from the ATF Distribution Center through the online Distribution Center Order Form, or by calling (703) 870-7525 or (703) 870-7528.
---- Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) certification has been replaced with CLEO notification. The applicant on the Form 1 and the transferee on the Forms 4 and 5 shall forward a completed copy of the application to the chief law enforcement officer of the locality in which the applicant or transferee is located. In addition, all responsible persons must also submit a completed copy of Form 5320.23, to the chief law enforcement officer of the locality in which the responsible person resides.
---- after July 12, 2016, all applications to make or transfer NFA firearms must be submitted on the new Form 1, Form 4 or Form 5 and a Form 5320.23 must be completed by each responsible person of a trust or legal entity.
---- after July 12, 2016, CLEO certification is no longer required but applicants must send a copy of the application to make or transfer NFA firearms to their chief law enforcement officer notifying them of the application.
---- all applications post marked prior to the effective date of July 13, 2016 will be processed according to the current regulations.
---- all applications post marked on or after the effective date of July 13, 2016 will be processed according to the new regulations set forth by 41F.

Related Resources
Final Rule 41F: Machineguns, Destructive Devices and Certain Other Firearms; Background Checks for Responsible Persons of a Trust or Legal Entity With Respect To Making or Transferring a Firearm
General 41F Questions and Answers

Forms related to Final Rule 41F
All previous editions of the forms are obsolete and will not be accepted.
- ATF Form 5320.23 - National Firearms Act Responsible Person Questionnaire (I may refer to this as the RPQ)
- ATF Form 5320.1 - Form 1 - Application to Make and Register a Firearm (I may refer to this as the F1)
- ATF Form 5320.4 - Form 4 - Application for Tax Paid Transfer and Registration of Firearm (I may refer to this as the F4)
- ATF Form 5320.5 - Form 5 - Application for Tax Exempt Transfer and Registration of Firearm (I am not covering this in the write-up)
Order Forms and Fingerprint Cards

Related Research and Background Information
National Firearms Act
Regulations and Rulings

Contact Information
Please direct 41F related questions to 41F@atf.gov.
All applications must be mailed to the address below:

Mailing Address
NFA Branch
P.O. Box 530298
Atlanta, GA 30353-0298

Phone
Phone: (304) 616-4500
Fax: (304) 616-4501

[BigWaylon]

How to fill out a Form 1 as an Individual

You’ll need to submit two identical copies of this form (double-sided is no longer a requirement). Sending in the instructions is not necessary, so most people will have pages 1 & 2 on one sheet (if you opt for double-sided), and then page 3 with a blank back side. You’ll also need a 3rd copy to send to the CLEO whose jurisdiction is shown in 3b (the forms have ATF Copy or CLEO Copy in the footer).



1. Check box (a) for Tax Paid
2. Check box for INDIVIDUAL
3a. Leave blank
3b. Applicant’s complete name and mailing address.
3c. If PO Box entered in 3b, a physical address needs to be provided here, otherwise leave blank
3d. County
3e. Telephone number (including area code)
3f. Email address



4a. Name and city, state engraved on firearm if modifying existing firearm. Your name and the city, state where firearm will be made if starting from scratch (for example, a Form 1 suppressor or an SBR using an 80% lower)
4b. SBR/SBS/DD/AOW/Silencer, or the fully spelled out version of those items
4c. Caliber or gauge you’re initially building, regardless of what’s already engraved
4d. Model, as engraved on the firearm
4e. Length of barrel in inches (N/A if item is a suppressor)
4f. Overall length in inches
4g. Serial number
4h. Historically, most people have left this blank. However, the current version of the form and the new 41F version are different from previous forms in the fact they specifically mention the maker’s name and city, state. No harm done in providing that information as you’ll have to engrave it anyway.
4i. State the reason you’re building the fiream. Lots of people use a generic “all lawful reasons”, and your state may have specific wording required
4j. Only answer if item is a Destructive Device
4k. Answer Yes/No (usually “No”)
NOTES: (1) barrel and overall lengths do not include muzzle device unless it’s permanently attached via approved methods such as pin & weld or 1100F silver solder and (2) if there is a folding or collapsible stock, overall length is measured with stock fully extended



5. only answer if applicable
6a & 6b. only answer if applicable
7. Sign form
8. Print name
9. Date form
Do not fill out anything else on page 1



10. Provide CLEO Notification info for the address listed in 3b. Note that state-level CLEO personnel are still acceptable if you don’t want to notify a local Sheriff or Chief of Police. Instruction (2)(g) says: Law Enforcement Notification. The applicant must provide a copy of the Form 1 to the chief law enforcement officer who has jurisdiction over the area of the applicant’s address shown in item 3b of the Form 1. In addition, if the applicant is other than an individual, a copy of the Form 5320.23, National Firearms Act (NFA) Responsible Person Questionnaire, for each responsible person must be provided to their respective chief law enforcement officer. The chief law enforcement officer is considered to be the Chief of Police; the Sheriff; the Head of the State Police; or a State or local district attorney or prosecutor.



11. Answer questions 11a-11h using Yes/No boxes. Definitions are provided on the following pages if needed
12. Affix photo
13a. Check appropriate box(es) NOTE: this replaces the 5330.20 CoC form
13b, 13c & 13d1. Answer Yes/No as appropriate
13d2. If 13d1 was "yes", answer Yes/No as appropriate, otherwise check N/A
14. Answer if applicable



CERTIFICATION. Sign and Date



15 & 16. Leave blank



17. Check appropriate box for method of payment, and fill out necessary info (if paying by check, I always recommend writing the serial number on the Memo line of the check). Sign and date.

Actions to take:
1. Mail the CLEO Copy (the third one I mentioned at the beginning) of the F1 to the CLEO you listed in section 10. There is no action required on their part. (No FP cards are sent to CLEO)
2. Mail the two ATF Copies of the F1, including payment, and two completed FD-258LE fingerprint cards, to the address at the top of the form.
NOTE: The ATF is saying that two fingerprint cards are required for each serial number, even when multiple forms are submitted at the same time. This is different from how it used to work, but we won’t know for sure until somebody that submits one set for multiple forms in the 41F era reports back.
NOTE: Per ATF's answer in email, no photo is required on the CLEO Copy of the F1, which is consistent with the process for an entity (no photo on CLEO Copy of RPQ)

[BigWaylon]

How to fill out a Form 1 as an Entity

You’ll need to submit two identical copies of this form (double-sided is no longer a requirement). Sending in the instructions is not necessary, so most people will have pages 1 & 2 on one sheet (if you opt for double-sided), and then page 3 with a blank back side. You’ll also need a 3rd copy to send to the CLEO whose jurisdiction is shown in 3b (the forms have ATF Copy or CLEO Copy in the footer).



1. Check box (a) for Tax Paid
2. Check box for TRUST or LEGAL ENTITY
3a. Enter Trade Name, if applicable
3b. Applicant’s name and address. This is not you as an individual, it's the name of the trust, corporation, LLC, etc. The address is the location within the particular state where the firearm will primarily be stored.
3c. If PO Box entered in 3b, a physical address needs to be provided here, otherwise leave blank
3d. County
3e. Telephone number (including area code)
3f. Email address



4a. Name and city, state engraved on firearm if modifying existing firearm. Your entity’s name and the city, state where firearm will be made if starting from scratch (for example, a Form 1 suppressor or an SBR using an 80% lower)
4b. SBR/SBS/DD/AOW/Silencer, or the fully spelled out version of those items
4c. Caliber or gauge you’re initially building, regardless of what’s already engraved
4d. Model, as engraved on the firearm
4e. Length of barrel in inches (N/A if item is a suppressor)
4f. Overall length in inches
4g. Serial number
4h. Historically, most people have left this blank. However, the current version of the form and the new 41F version are different from previous forms in the fact they specifically mention the maker’s name and city, state. No harm done in providing that information as you’ll have to engrave it anyway.
4i. State the reason you’re building the fiream. Lots of people use a generic “all lawful reasons”, and your state may have specific wording required
4j. Only answer if item is a Destructive Device
4k. Answer Yes/No (usually “No”)
NOTES: (1) barrel and overall lengths do not include muzzle device unless it’s permanently attached via approved methods such as pin & weld or 1100F silver solder and (2) if there is a folding or collapsible stock, overall length is measured with stock fully extended



5. only answer if applicable
6a & 6b. only answer if applicable
7. Sign form
8. Print name
9. Date form
Do not fill out anything else on page 1



10. Provide CLEO Notification info for the address listed in 3b. Note that state-level CLEO personnel are still acceptable if you don’t want to notify a local Sheriff or Chief of Police. Instruction (2)(g) says: Law Enforcement Notification. The applicant must provide a copy of the Form 1 to the chief law enforcement officer who has jurisdiction over the area of the applicant’s address shown in item 3b of the Form 1. In addition, if the applicant is other than an individual, a copy of the Form 5320.23, National Firearms Act (NFA) Responsible Person Questionnaire, for each responsible person must be provided to their respective chief law enforcement officer. The chief law enforcement officer is considered to be the Chief of Police; the Sheriff; the Head of the State Police; or a State or local district attorney or prosecutor.



11. leave blank
12. leave blank (the photo will be handled with the 5320.23)
13a-d2. leave blank
14. leave blank



CERTIFICATION. Sign and Date. This is different than the previous process for entities, and signature is required per Instruction (2)(d)(3)



15. Provide number or Responsible Persons
16. Provide names of Responsible Persons



17. Check appropriate box for method of payment, and fill out necessary info (if paying by check, I always recommend writing the serial number on the Memo line of the check). Sign and date.

Actions to take:
1. Mail the CLEO Copy (the third one I mentioned at the beginning) of the F1 and a completed 5320.23 to the CLEO you listed in section 10. There is no action required on their part. (No FP cards are sent to CLEO)
2. Each remaining responsible person must send the CLEO Copy (no photo) of the completed RPQ to their respective CLEO. No fingerprint cards are sent with these CLEO Notifications, and no copy of the F1.
3. Mail the two ATF Copies of the F1, including payment, to the address at the top of the form. For each responsible person, including the person filing the form, you must also include the ATF Copy of the completed RPQ (with affixed photo) and two completed FD-258 fingerprint cards. You also need to include proof of the entity’s existence...copy of trust, etc. See instruction 2(d)(4) on the Form 1 or 4.
NOTE: The ATF is saying that two fingerprint cards are required for each serial number, even when multiple forms are submitted at the same time. This is different from how it used to work, but we won’t know for sure until somebody that submits one set for multiple forms in the 41F era reports back.

[BigWaylon]

How to fill out a Form 4 as an Individual

You’ll need to submit two identical copies of this form (double-sided is no longer a requirement). Sending in the instructions is not necessary, so most people will have pages 1 & 2 on one sheet (if you opt for double-sided), and then page 3 with a blank back side. You’ll also need a 3rd copy to send to the CLEO whose jurisdiction is shown in 2a (the forms have ATF Copy or CLEO Copy in the footer).



1. Check box appropriate box for Type of Transfer ($5 is for AOW, $200 for all other NFA items)
2a. Check box for INDIVIDUAL and provide Transferee’s complete name and mailing address.
2b. County
3a. Transferor’s complete name and mailing address. (if from a dealer, the dealer will most likely populate)
3b. Transferor's email address
3c. Transferor’s Telephone number (including area code)
3d. Complete if applicable, most likely it’s not
3e. Complete if applicable



Everything in item 4 is usually taken directly off the previous form, whether that’s an F1, F2, F3, F4, or even an F5.
4a. Name and city, state engraved on firearm
4b. SBR/SBS/DD/MG/AOW/Silencer, or the fully spelled out version of those items
4c. Caliber or gauge as engraved
4d. Model, as engraved on the firearm (if designated)
4e. Length of barrel in inches (N/A if item is a suppressor)
4f. Overall length in inches
4g. Serial number
4h. Historically, most people have left this blank. Any additional engraving on the firearm can be noted here.
NOTES: (1) barrel and overall lengths do not include muzzle device unless it’s permanently attached via approved methods such as pin & weld or 1100F silver solder and (2) if there is a folding or collapsible stock, overall length is measured with stock fully extended



5. Transferee FFL (if any)
6a & 6b. Transferee SOT (if any)
7. Transferor FFL (if any)
8a & 8b. Transferor SOT (if any)
9. Transferor signature
10. Print transferor name, and title (if any)
11. Date form
Do not fill out anything else on page 1



12. Provide CLEO Notification info for the address listed in 2a. Note that state-level CLEO personnel are still acceptable if you don’t want to notify a local Sheriff or Chief of Police. Instruction (2)(g) says: Law Enforcement Notification. The applicant must provide a copy of the Form 4 to the chief law enforcement officer who has jurisdiction over the area of the applicant’s address shown in item 2a of the Form 4. In addition, if the applicant is other than an individual, a copy of the Form 5320.23, National Firearms Act (NFA) Responsible Person Questionnaire, for each responsible person must be provided to their respective chief law enforcement officer. The chief law enforcement officer is considered to be the Chief of Police; the Sheriff; the Head of the State Police; or a State or local district attorney or prosecutor.



13. Fill in the blanks per Instruction (2)(e). There are situations where this can be left blank, for instance if the item is a suppressor or AOW, or if transferee/transferor meet certain requirements.
14. Answer questions 14a-14h using Yes/No boxes. Definitions are provided on the following pages if needed
15. Affix photo
16a. Check appropriate box(es) NOTE: this replaces the 5330.20 CoC form
16b, 16c & 16d1. Answer Yes/No as appropriate
16d2. If 16d1 was "yes", answer Yes/No as appropriate, otherwise check N/A
17. Answer if applicable



CERTIFICATION. Transferee must Sign and Date



18 & 19. Leave blank



20. Check appropriate box for method of payment, and fill out necessary info (if paying by check, I always recommend writing the serial number on the Memo line of the check). Sign and date.

Actions to take:
1. Mail the CLEO Copy (the third one I mentioned at the beginning) of the F4 to the CLEO you listed in section 10. There is no action required on their part. (No FP cards are sent to CLEO)
2. Mail the two ATF Copies of the F4, including payment, and two completed FD-258LE fingerprint cards, to the address at the top of the form.
NOTE: The ATF is saying that two fingerprint cards are required for each serial number, even when multiple forms are submitted at the same time. This is different from how it used to work, but we won’t know for sure until somebody that submits one set for multiple forms in the 41F era reports back.
NOTE: Per ATF's answer in email, no photo is required on the CLEO Copy of the F4, which is consistent with the process for an entity (no photo on CLEO Copy of RPQ)

[BigWaylon]

How to fill out a Form 4 as an Entity

You’ll need to submit two identical copies of this form (double-sided is no longer a requirement). Sending in the instructions is not necessary, so most people will have pages 1 & 2 on one sheet (if you opt for double-sided), and then page 3 with a blank back side. You’ll also need a 3rd copy to send to the CLEO whose jurisdiction is shown in 2a (the forms have ATF Copy or CLEO Copy in the footer).



1. Check box appropriate box for Type of Transfer ($5 is for AOW, $200 for all other NFA items)
2a. Check box for TRUST or LEGAL ENTITY and provide Transferee’s name and address. This is not the person submitting the form, it's the name of the trust, corporation, LLC, etc. The address here is the primary location that the firearm will be stored.
2b. County
3a. Transferor’s complete name and mailing address. (if from a dealer, the dealer will most likely populate)
3b. Transferor's email address
3c. Transferor’s Telephone number (including area code)
3d. Complete if applicable, most likely it’s not
3e. Complete if applicable



Everything in item 4 is usually taken directly off the previous form, whether that’s an F1, F2, F3, F4, or even an F5.
4a. Name and city, state engraved on firearm
4b. SBR/SBS/DD/MG/AOW/Silencer, or the fully spelled out version of those items
4c. Caliber or gauge as engraved
4d. Model, as engraved on the firearm (if designated)
4e. Length of barrel in inches (N/A if item is a suppressor)
4f. Overall length in inches
4g. Serial number
4h. Historically, most people have left this blank. Any additional engraving on the firearm can be noted here.
NOTES: (1) barrel and overall lengths do not include muzzle device unless it’s permanently attached via approved methods such as pin & weld or 1100F silver solder and (2) if there is a folding or collapsible stock, overall length is measured with stock fully extended



5. Transferee FFL (if any)
6a & 6b. Transferee SOT (if any)
7. Transferor FFL (if any)
8a & 8b. Transferor SOT (if any)
9. Transferor signature
10. Print transferor name, and title (if any)
11. Date form
Do not fill out anything else on page 1



12. Provide CLEO Notification info for the address listed in 2a. Note that state-level CLEO personnel are still acceptable if you don’t want to notify a local Sheriff or Chief of Police. Instruction (2)(g) says: Law Enforcement Notification. The applicant must provide a copy of the Form 4 to the chief law enforcement officer who has jurisdiction over the area of the applicant’s address shown in item 2a of the Form 4. In addition, if the applicant is other than an individual, a copy of the Form 5320.23, National Firearms Act (NFA) Responsible Person Questionnaire, for each responsible person must be provided to their respective chief law enforcement officer. The chief law enforcement officer is considered to be the Chief of Police; the Sheriff; the Head of the State Police; or a State or local district attorney or prosecutor.



13. Fill in the blanks per Instruction (2)(e). There are situations where this can be left blank, for instance if the item is a suppressor or AOW, or if transferee/transferor meet certain requirements.
14. leave blank
15. leave blank (the photo will be handled with the 5320.23)
16a-d2. leave blank
17. leave blank



CERTIFICATION. Transferee must sign and Date. This is different than the previous process for entities, and signature is required per Instruction (2)(d)(3)



18. Provide number or Responsible Persons
19. Provide names of Responsible Persons



20. Check appropriate box for method of payment, and fill out necessary info (if paying by check, I always recommend writing the serial number on the Memo line of the check). Sign and date.

Actions to take:
1. Mail the CLEO Copy (the third one I mentioned at the beginning) of the F4 and a completed RPQ to the CLEO you listed in section 10. There is no action required on their part. (No FP cards are sent to CLEO)
2. Each remaining responsible person must send the CLEO Copy (no photo) of the completed RPQ to their respective CLEO. No fingerprint cards are sent with these CLEO Notifications, and no copy of the F4.
3. Mail the two ATF Copies of the F4, including payment, to the address at the top of the form. For each responsible person, including the person filing the form, you must also include the ATF Copy of the completed RPQ (with affixed photo) and two completed FD-258 fingerprint cards. You also need to include proof of the entity’s existence...copy of trust, etc. See instruction 2(d)(4) on the Form 1 or 4.
NOTE: The ATF is saying that two fingerprint cards are required for each serial number, even when multiple forms are submitted at the same time. This is different from how it used to work, but we won’t know for sure until somebody that submits one set for multiple forms in the 41F era reports back.

[BigWaylon]

How to fill out a 5320.23 (RPQ) (will only be necessary if applicant is not an individual)

You’ll need two copies of this form filled out for each RP, as well as two completed FD-258 fingerprint cards. (notice one copy says ATF Copy in the footer, and the other says CLEO Copy)



1. Check box to indicate which ATF form is being filed
2. Enter the info from the F1 (item 3b), F4 (item 2a) or F5 (item 2a)
3a. Name and Home Address of RP
3b. RP’s Telephone number
3c. RP’s email address
3d. RP’s other names used, including maiden name



3e. Affix photo on the ATF Copy only
4a. Enter type of firearm from item 4b of the F1/F4/F5
4b. Enter name and address from item 4a of the F1/F4/F5
4c. Enter model from item 4d of the F1/F4/F5
4d. Enter the caliber/gauge from item 4c of the F1/F4/F5
4e. Enter the serial number from item 4g of the F1/F4/F5



5. Enter the information for the CLEO that has jurisdiction in the RP’s location (not necessarily the same info that’s in the CLEO Notification section of the F1/F4/F5). Remember, this can be a state level employee.



6. Answer questions 6a-6h using Yes/No boxes. Definitions are provided on the following pages if needed



7a. Check appropriate box.
7b, 7c & 7d1. Check Yes/No as appropriate
7d2. If 7d1 was “yes”, check Yes/No, otherwise check N/A
8. Answer if appropriate, otherwise leave blank
CERTIFICATION. Responsible Person must sign and date.

Actions to take:
1. Mail the CLEO Copy (no photo) of the RPQ to the CLEO listed in item 5. (No FP cards are sent to CLEO)
2. The ATF Copy (with photo attached) needs to be sent with the F1/F4/F5 to the ATF, along with the two FD-258 Fingerprint cards. This goes for every person considered an RP, including the person submitting the F1/F4/F5.
NOTE: The ATF is saying that two fingerprint cards are required for each serial number, even when multiple forms are submitted at the same time. This is different from how it used to work, but we won’t know for sure until somebody that submits one set for multiple forms in the 41F era reports back.

[Bret]

4a. Name and city, state engraved on firearm if modifying existing firearm. Your name and the city, state where firearm will be made if starting from scratch (for example, a Form 1 suppressor or an SBR using an 80% lower)

The old Form 1 said "Name and Location of Original Manufacturer of Firearm". This new 41F Form 1 says "Name and Address of Original Manufacturer". Does anyone know for sure that the name, city and state are adequate for this section or do I need to fill in the complete address?

[BigWaylon]

The old Form 1 said "Name and Location of Original Manufacturer of Firearm". This new 41F Form 1 says "Name and Address of Original Manufacturer". Does anyone know for sure that the name, city and state are adequate for this section or do I need to fill in the complete address?

They really want what's engraved, which is simply name & city/state on most firearms.

[Bret]

If that's what they really want on the new 41F Form 1, then why did they change the wording? Has anyone submitted with just the name & location and had the 41F Form 1 approved.

[BigWaylon]

If that's what they really want on the new 41F Form 1, then why did they change the wording? Has anyone submitted with just the name & location and had the 41F Form 1 approved.

Read the instructions on the form. They still say "name and location". Nobody has a 41F form back.

There's no telling why they made that minor change. There's no telling why a lot of the forms are worded the way they are. For instance, why does the 5320.20 have "country" on the From side and "county" on the To side?