M&P SERIES 9MM

[williejc]

Has Smith worked the bugs out of their full size M&P 9mm pistols? I refer to reliability and accuracy issues that many here once discussed. Can any one comment on the PRO 9 pistols of recent manufacture? I'm eyeballing one and might be tempted if they now have target accuracy.

[MegademiC]

What reliability issues were there?

[C4IGrant]

Has Smith worked the bugs out of their full size M&P 9mm pistols? I refer to reliability and accuracy issues that many here once discussed. Can any one comment on the PRO 9 pistols of recent manufacture? I'm eyeballing one and might be tempted if they now have target accuracy.

S&W really hasn't had any reliability issues. The current production guns are more accurate than the older ones, but I would ALWAYS check out the barrel hood to slide fit (ideally below .004) before buying one.

Mass produced polymer guns (Glock, M&P, etc) are NOT target guns. So if you are looking for that level of accuracy, you won't find it. The closest exceptions to this rule would be anything from HK and Walther.



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[Kenneth]

If you want target go CZ. If you want combat accuracy the M&P is fine. I bought one from grant a few years ago and have not had any problems with it. I have shot USPSA and took several handgun training classes with it and I did not feel that the accuracy was to blame for my misses.

It's not as accurate as any of my CZ pistols but they were also more money.


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[C4IGrant]

If you want target go CZ. If you want combat accuracy the M&P is fine. I bought one from grant a few years ago and have not had any problems with it. I have shot USPSA and took several handgun training classes with it and I did not feel that the accuracy was to blame for my misses.

It's not as accurate as any of my CZ pistols but they were also more money.


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Yeah, CZ makes VERY accurate pistols.


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[GregP220]

If you want a target grade striker fired pistol I'd look hard at a PPQ.

Put a 10-8 rear sight on it and you should be good to go.

[HeruMew]

Yeah, CZ makes VERY accurate pistols.


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Would this remain the case with their Polymer pistols as well as their metal framed pistols?

I am interested in picking up a P09 (or P07, still undecided on that end, but it will be an HD gun most likely so am leaning towards the 09.), and I am genuinely interested.

As always, thanks for all your input Grant.

In .02, I haven't messed with M&Ps, only time I ever saw one is when I was under 21 and a Boss of mine wanted to show off and wound up unholstering in front of a group of people.

I sure learned a lot of DO NOTS around that Ol' Guy.

ETA: To clarify, it's not the story that changes my opinion of the firearm, jsut expressing I have little experience with them.

[Kenneth]

My personal opinion is that the metal frame CZ's are SLIGHTLY more accurate but the polymer guns are still some of the most accurate production pistols.

I have a P07, P09, P01, and a Shadow Custom. The P09 and the Shadow are easily the softest recoiling and most accurate out of the group.

Only problem is the stock triggers can be a bear to get used to but they break in nicely and putting CGW parts in makes a world of difference.


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[C4IGrant]

Would this remain the case with their Polymer pistols as well as their metal framed pistols?

Yes.




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[HeruMew]

My personal opinion is that the metal frame CZ's are SLIGHTLY more accurate but the polymer guns are still some of the most accurate production pistols.

I have a P07, P09, P01, and a Shadow Custom. The P09 and the Shadow are easily the softest recoiling and most accurate out of the group.

Only problem is the stock triggers can be a bear to get used to but they break in nicely and putting CGW parts in makes a world of difference.


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Thanks for the details, appreciate the response.

I will certainly watch CGW in case I have issues with the stock trigger.

Yes.




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Thanks Grant, I will make sure to check out what GRT has in stock before committing to a purchase with another vendor. (won't be for another month or so anyhow)

Nonetheless, I will release my unintentional hijacking of the thread. Sorry OP.