What pistol for a steady diet of +P+, ?

[lowprone]

In my never ending quest for the perfect offensive/defensive pistol, I wonder !
With the exception of the Glock 17/34, what pistols can take a steady diet of
+P+ 9mm ammunition?
I find the Glock a efficient tool and nothing more, I don't like the grip angle and
hate the trigger.
I am looking for a pistol that is high capacity, can tolerate +P+, and has a better
trigger than the Glock.
I am thinking the earlier HK USP series holds the most promise, but I can't
afford to buy every 9mm out there.
Anybody have one that fulfills my needs without frame cracking, falling apart?

[ST911]

steady diet of +P+ 9mm ammunition?

Why do that? How much is a "steady diet" to you?

[daniel87]

If you want +p+ instead of maxing a cartridge to past its design/safe levels why not buy a caliber that is already there.

Buy a 10 mm or .357 sig

For those who dont know the + means above the max design pressure.
+p+ means above the + above max.


Buy known good ammo and learn to hit what you shoot

Fyi. Central nervous aka head will kill far more likley than a chest or arm or leg shot.


A bullet/ load that meets fbi to the face will always work better than a +p+ to the leg

For example federal 9mm hst or 9mm corbon dpx or those in 45 acp

There is a reason frames crack from +p and or +p+



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[Helix12]

If you want +p+ instead of maxing a cartridge to past its design/safe levels why not buy a caliber that is already there.

Buy a 10 mm or .357 sig

For those who dont know the + means above the max design pressure.
+p+ means above the + above max.


Buy known good ammo and learn to hit what you shoot

Fyi. Central nervous aka head will kill far more likley than a chest or arm or leg shot.


A bullet/ load that meets fbi to the face will always work better than a +p+ to the leg

For example federal 9mm hst or 9mm corbon dpx or those in 45 acp

There is a reason frames crack from +p and or +p+



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I agree with this.

If you want something above the standard 9mm load then buy a cartridge specifically design for that level. Shooting 9mm +P+ is like souping up a Honda Civic. If the idea is to go fast then you should start with something else.

[WillBrink]

In my never ending quest for the perfect offensive/defensive pistol, I wonder !
With the exception of the Glock 17/34, what pistols can take a steady diet of
+P+ 9mm ammunition?
I find the Glock a efficient tool and nothing more, I don't like the grip angle and
hate the trigger.
I am looking for a pistol that is high capacity, can tolerate +P+, and has a better
trigger than the Glock.
I am thinking the earlier HK USP series holds the most promise, but I can't
afford to buy every 9mm out there.
Anybody have one that fulfills my needs without frame cracking, falling apart?

What benefits are there to +p+ vs standard pressure 9mm in modern defensive ammo? That would seem to be the Q to start with no? Added costs, added recoil, added wear & tear on the gun, minimal (or even reduced...) improvements in terminal ballistics.

[lowprone]

I know all of that, and at the present state of development there are a good half dozen very efficient
9mm cartridges that eclipse all but the best .40/.45 .
You can carry a butt load of them and they take up less room, recoil less.
Plus I can practice with normal loads.
I have a very generous supply of 100gr Hirtenberger FL Police and WW 127gr. +P+.
I like having the best available, but unlike the govt, I bought them myself.

[TacticalMark]

I have a very generous supply of 100gr Hirtenberger FL Police and WW 127gr. +P+.
I like having the best available, but unlike the govt, I bought them myself.

I don't think the above performs better then 124/147gr HST or GD's. I'd take the +P+ stuff you have and sell it at a gun show.

[lowprone]

Sorry to dissapoint you, but I hope you never have to rely on it. It was co-developed by Austrian police with Hirtenberger so that it doesn't expand in bad guys at all. I have the official specs lying in front of me and can scan them if you want- and can read German. All it does is to prevent ricochetts better than FMJ.
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A soft tip that does not expand is counter intuitive.
I have shot several deer in 100llb + weight and everyone exited T&T w/5/8" permanent wound channel.
Pamphlets and spec sheets don't impress me much, 14" of transverse tissue destruction through shoulder
area exiting past last rib from a .38 cal. pistol does.
You act like i'm trying to sell you some but I'm not, I am genuinely impressed with this cartridge and I
imagine it would penetrate all but the best vests.

[Defaultmp3]

I imagine it would penetrate all but the best vests.

I highly doubt that, especially if it's a soft point bullet.

[Ron3]

Any of the brand-name full or compact size 9mm pistols should be fine.