What pistol for a steady diet of +P+, ?

[lowprone]

In my never ending quest for the perfect offensive/defensive pistol, I wonder !
With the exception of the Glock 17/34, what pistols can take a steady diet of
+P+ 9mm ammunition?
I find the Glock a efficient tool and nothing more, I don't like the grip angle and
hate the trigger.
I am looking for a pistol that is high capacity, can tolerate +P+, and has a better
trigger than the Glock.
I am thinking the earlier HK USP series holds the most promise, but I can't
afford to buy every 9mm out there.
Anybody have one that fulfills my needs without frame cracking, falling apart?

[ST911]

steady diet of +P+ 9mm ammunition?

Why do that? How much is a "steady diet" to you?

[daniel87]

If you want +p+ instead of maxing a cartridge to past its design/safe levels why not buy a caliber that is already there.

Buy a 10 mm or .357 sig

For those who dont know the + means above the max design pressure.
+p+ means above the + above max.


Buy known good ammo and learn to hit what you shoot

Fyi. Central nervous aka head will kill far more likley than a chest or arm or leg shot.


A bullet/ load that meets fbi to the face will always work better than a +p+ to the leg

For example federal 9mm hst or 9mm corbon dpx or those in 45 acp

There is a reason frames crack from +p and or +p+



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[WillBrink]

In my never ending quest for the perfect offensive/defensive pistol, I wonder !
With the exception of the Glock 17/34, what pistols can take a steady diet of
+P+ 9mm ammunition?
I find the Glock a efficient tool and nothing more, I don't like the grip angle and
hate the trigger.
I am looking for a pistol that is high capacity, can tolerate +P+, and has a better
trigger than the Glock.
I am thinking the earlier HK USP series holds the most promise, but I can't
afford to buy every 9mm out there.
Anybody have one that fulfills my needs without frame cracking, falling apart?

What benefits are there to +p+ vs standard pressure 9mm in modern defensive ammo? That would seem to be the Q to start with no? Added costs, added recoil, added wear & tear on the gun, minimal (or even reduced...) improvements in terminal ballistics.

[lowprone]

I know all of that, and at the present state of development there are a good half dozen very efficient
9mm cartridges that eclipse all but the best .40/.45 .
You can carry a butt load of them and they take up less room, recoil less.
Plus I can practice with normal loads.
I have a very generous supply of 100gr Hirtenberger FL Police and WW 127gr. +P+.
I like having the best available, but unlike the govt, I bought them myself.

[bighawk]

I had a Sig 226 that was my go to for carrying in the woods when I was first getting into guns (didn't have any larger caliber pistol at the time) so I was looking for the most powerful ammo I could find.

I put about 1000 rounds of +P+ stuff through it over the course of about a year. It functioned fine long after I discontinued use of +P+ ammo and handled anything I fed it without issue for thousands of rounds with no visible signs of damage.

[Mjolnir]

HK

But.... why do that? It will result in premature failure of the pistol, no matter what make and/or model.


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[SkiDevil]

Glock 17 and HK USP 9mm Full-size

I have shot hot loads out of my G17 and a SIG P226. I typically just carry a standard quality JHP loading now.

Agree with others that shot placement is more important than any wonder bullet.

The wear and tear is not worth it.

That said the dual-spring design in the USP full-size will take a lot hot rounds.

[arbninftry]

Hands down the USP. It has a heavy slide (designed for the .40), and as mentioned earlier the dual recoil spring.

The down side, the trigger sucks. You have to put a match or LEM trigger in it to make it workable.

[TacticalMark]

I have a very generous supply of 100gr Hirtenberger FL Police and WW 127gr. +P+.
I like having the best available, but unlike the govt, I bought them myself.

I don't think the above performs better then 124/147gr HST or GD's. I'd take the +P+ stuff you have and sell it at a gun show.