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    Site for malfunction types and clearances?

    Looking for something I can point people to. Anyone have a link that covers the 4 types of AR malfunctions and what to do about them?

    Thanks.

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    I find it amusing that his video is created "in response to someone that should know better" yet is full if bad information.

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    Perfect timing on this thread Rob. I am also looking for AR specific malfunction clearances that are commonly taught by many of today's top trainers. Which ones are useful, and which ones are useless to perform. I am in the middle of writing up a training proposal for my departments new carbine training program, so any help on this is greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I find it amusing that his video is created "in response to someone that should know better" yet is full if bad information.
    I agree, as I am still yet to actually see a double feed caused by resting weight on, or using the magazine as a forward grip.

    Last month while attending a carbine instructors course for my department, I fired hundreds of rounds from the prone position using the magazine as a monopod, and ditched my vertical grip, and used the magwell/magazine as a forward grip without any double feeds or malfunctions of any type.

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    I guess I'm going to have to add it to my own site.

    Type 1 - Failure to Fire (Immediate Action)
    Symptom: "Click" but no "Bang"
    Solution:
    1. "Tap" the magazine
    2. "Rack" the charging handle
    3. Reassess and fire if necessary


    Type 2 - Failure to Eject (Immediate Action)
    Symptom: Mushy Trigger
    Solution:
    1. Look at the chamber and asses the problem
    2. "Tap" the magazine
    3. "Rack" the charging handle and "Roll" the carbine
    4. Reassess and fire if necessary


    Type 3 - Doublefeed (Remedial Action)
    Symptom: Immediate Action doesn't fix the problem
    Solution:
    1. Engage the safety (if possible)
    2. Lock the bolt to the rear
    3. Strip and discard the magazine
    4. Visually and digitally inspect the chamber
    5. Rack the charging handle 3 times
    6. Insert fresh magazine
    7. Rack the charging handle
    8. Reassess and fire if necessary


    I think this is right, but I'm sure I'm leaving something out. Many people are combining 1 and two, and adding a quick look at the chamber before doing anything to avoid doing Immediate Action if the situation calls for Remedial Action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Looking for something I can point people to. Anyone have a link that covers the 4 types of AR malfunctions and what to do about them?

    Thanks.
    I realize this is not a link, per se, but a link to material that should answer your quest for knowledge.

    http://www.vikingtactics.com/book.html#handbook

    Come to think of it, I believe that I've read about these books on M4C, so you may already be aware of them. If so, disregard. If not, they're worth getting ahold of. Like everything, Kyle and Frank describe IA drills that are "a way". There are others who do something different. But, coming from these two gentlemen, you can count on it being one of the "right" ways.

    Hope this helps somewhat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I guess I'm going to have to add it to my own site.


    Type 3 - Doublefeed (Remedial Action)
    Engage the safety (if possible)
    Lock the bolt to the rear
    Visually and digitally inspect the chamber
    Rack the charging handle 3 times
    Insert fresh magazine
    Rack the charging handle
    Reassess and fire if necessary
    Good info. Under Type 3, When do you drop the old magazine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I find it amusing that his video is created "in response to someone that should know better" yet is full if bad information.
    Great call... My first reaction was to question which comic book this guy derived his expertese from, then to question which military he served in.... Oh yeah the airsoft military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshallDodge View Post
    Good info. Under Type 3, When do you drop the old magazine?
    AAAck! I knew I was forgetting something. I'll edit the original post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endorphin rush View Post
    I realize this is not a link, per se, but a link to material that should answer your quest for knowledge.

    http://www.vikingtactics.com/book.html#handbook

    Come to think of it, I believe that I've read about these books on M4C, so you may already be aware of them. If so, disregard. If not, they're worth getting ahold of. Like everything, Kyle and Frank describe IA drills that are "a way". There are others who do something different. But, coming from these two gentlemen, you can count on it being one of the "right" ways.

    Hope this helps somewhat.
    I have both of those, and loand them out all the time.

    I was hoping to find something on the web to point peple to that are too far away to hand a book to.

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