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    Quote Originally Posted by deerbear2000 View Post
    Hi Guys I just bought my first AR15 a Stag Model 2L Flat Top. I will be buying a FF Rail and would like your expert opinions on the best one to get. Thanks
    I guess we have to ask you. What do you want from a rail?

    Weight?
    Look?
    Easy installation?
    2peice.
    There are lots of options.

    Personally I say a single rail because its part of the fun putting together your best friend.

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    i like daniels defense rails. i like larue for mounts.

    i'm sure the LT rails are nice, but i haven't used them myself, but looking at specs DD is lighter than LT, so that's what i go with.

    i skip YHM whenever possible, but certain things like the 45 degree angle mount i have bought, just because there are less competing products in that area.

    but there are LOADS of rails on the market, so i can be more choosy there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    So, sample size = 1 and you feel that's enough to recomend them?

    I knew a guy in highshool that owned a Mustang II. Never broke down that I know of, never had any mechanical problems. Do you think he should then go around suggesting that everyone buy a Mustang II?
    ??? Geesh. Rough day? The man is just passing on his personal experience with an item. That's how we have all learned from you, grant, and many others. Maybe I missed something (possible) but I didn't see the crime in his posts. If he's wrong the majority of posts here will drown out his opinion.

    Lastly, I'm also looking at rails. Which one do you suggest and in which size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parabellum9x19mm View Post
    i like daniels defense rails. i like larue for mounts.

    i'm sure the LT rails are nice, but i haven't used them myself, but looking at specs DD is lighter than LT, so that's what i go with.

    i skip YHM whenever possible, but certain things like the 45 degree angle mount i have bought, just because there are less competing products in that area.

    but there are LOADS of rails on the market, so i can be more choosy there.
    But DD rails besides the Omega do not come with QD swivel ports on both sides. LT does. If you factor in adding a sling swivel onto a DD they are about the same weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballsout View Post
    But DD rails besides the Omega do not come with QD swivel ports on both sides. LT does. If you factor in adding a sling swivel onto a DD they are about the same weight.
    I counter your sling swivel mount and raise you 3 ladder rail covers.
    All Daniel Defense rails come with 3 ladder rail covers.
    Were I work that's about $35, about the same cost as a DD sling swivel mount FWIW.


    Having installed hundreds of rails. Pretty much from ALL manufacturers. The only brand/type of rail that I can think of that I've never installed is a KAC URX rail (just the installation tool for it is several hundred $).

    With what I have seen I highly recommend Daniel Defense, they have a rail for just about every application. My favorite rail from them is the RIS II MK18 rail, followed closely by the Lite Rail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballsout View Post
    But DD rails besides the Omega do not come with QD swivel ports on both sides. LT does. If you factor in adding a sling swivel onto a DD they are about the same weight.
    That is not an accurate statement.

    link

    FWIW, even with the stock parts it retains, AND adding in a QD swivel, the DD Omega even weighs less than the Larue. Inconsequentially less, but less all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZDL View Post
    ??? Geesh. Rough day? The man is just passing on his personal experience with an item. That's how we have all learned from you, grant, and many others. Maybe I missed something (possible) but I didn't see the crime in his posts. If he's wrong the majority of posts here will drown out his opinion.
    Which is fine, but it's an unqualified position that he then wants to go on and defend.

    I know it's the internet and all, but people posting opinions about an item after owning only a single sample, and none of the competition, would be better to read and not type. At least if you're going to recomend something in that situation have the decency to be clear about the situation.

    I think I had a sigline once that said "an unqualified opinion is useless" or something to that effect. Maybe I need to change it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post

    I knew a guy in highshool that owned a Mustang II. Never broke down that I know of, never had any mechanical problems. Do you think he should then go around suggesting that everyone buy a Mustang II?

    i had a mustang II in highschool man i loved that car.

    there are lots of rails out there,each with strengths and weakness's.find one that serves your purpose and has what your looking for in a rail.

    DD and Larue are prob good places to start,i just picked up an lwrc arm-r rail for a project and although it doesn't have all the bells and wistles of some of the other rails it should serve it's purpose well.

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    All 500 of our carbines are outfitted with YHM free floaters. I am not very impressed with them. I cannot say 100% that the issues were not caused by their installation at Bushmaster. The number one problem has been that I cannot remove the rails to do maintenance. The aluminum barrel nuts are so tight that the holes strip out when trying to remove them. Thus far I have only been able to remove them by cutting them off.



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    Quote Originally Posted by the_1iviper View Post
    i had a mustang II in highschool man i loved that car.
    I knew that someone would. The kid I knew had big drag tires on the back and little skinny tires on the front. That wasn't you was it? Leon High School, class of '93?

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