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Thread: When is a muzzle brake an unregistered silencer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAZ View Post
    It may have also been based on his claims. He mentions that it makes a nice low tone. That can be interpreted as it reduces the sound volume. It may only take it down .0000000001dB but technically it's still a reduction. A suppressor does t have to be good to need a tax stamp donation. Not agreeing with the law or the ATF's interpretation of it. We also have no clue what Albert Einstein in disguise said, wrote... to the UC agents that tried to buy one. Hell for all we know he is the UC and this is just his cover.
    kind of a question I've tossed around in my head, if I could keep the dB level constant, but shift the frequency of sound to the point a human ear can't hear it, either down into infra sonic or up into ultrasonic, have I created a suppressor by the legal definition? I could see it going both ways

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    18 U.S.C., § 921(A)(24)

    The term “Firearm Silencer” or “Firearm Muffler” means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

    Notice the word 'intended' That is why Sig lost their battle because their MPX barrel was designed and/or intended to be the baffle stack for a Silencer. I'm sure that the ATF's argument against this particualr brake is that it could be intended and redesigned to be a silencer part.
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    I believe the same opinion also went into the length of the muzzle brake that exceeded common usage.

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    "NO ONE ELSE HAS THIS"

    That was your first clue dude.

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    Read the link guys. This guy was busted twice for selling these. He apparently didn't learn his lesson the first time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    Read the link guys. This guy was busted twice for selling these. He apparently didn't learn his lesson the first time around.
    If true, that's huge. There's some tards that just don't know when to quit. I still think the thing is a useless piece of crap.
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    I stumbled on this thing a while ago while browsing Ebay, took one look, and ran like the wind. Nothing good here whichever way you look at it. With the Sig ruling, this thing stands no chance at legitimacy in the eyes of the ATF. From the design side, as it has already been stated prior it is a very inefficient monocore design.

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