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Thread: 6920 or LMT "the standard"

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    Quote Originally Posted by GONIF View Post
    you can bet your A$$ that if not parking under the FSB and useing straight pins were better Paule (BCM) would do it that way . these things may be no big deal to most of us but the hard core perfectionest's that realy know what they are doing are doing it for a reason . they could save time and money short cutting the prosecess. while I don't know if it makes any differance on a recreational AR or not the best insist on it . If I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time ,but when I don't know for sure I look at what the people in the know are doing and defer to them and thier vast knolage on the subject and it apears to me that parking under the FSB and useing taper pins is the perfered method of the experts.
    You do realize that the link I posted is Grant, from G&R Tactical, extolling the virtues of not parkerizing under the front sight base, as well as not using taper pins? I for one would include him in the category of "people in the know" and "hard core perfectionest's". I'll freely admit, though, I don't have his "vast knolage" .
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    Both are damn fine weapons, run like mad hatters, and built to last your lifetime. Truthfully, there is just no wrong choice here.

    I bought a second 6520 this past Saturday. I love the 6520 but it ran $1200. Thats a little steep. I bought a 6920 last year for about $1150, but now they are going for anywhere from $1350 to $1400, depending on that dealers mood, that given day.
    I have bought 3 complete factory LMT's this year by ordering them through my usual local dealer. I am not a LEO and that didn't seem to be any issue at all, but I do spend a whole lot of money there, which probably influences the way they treat me (I know for a fact that it does). All were under $1100 each with SOPMODs, single stage triggers, standard BCGs, and BUIS.
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    I suppose the poll depends on your personal choice, or personal feelings towards COLT.

    Fact is, the COLT military and LE guns are the standard which the others try to achieve.

    FN being the exception, as they are also compliant with the military specification.

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    Tapered pins are used because they are relatively easy to install for mass production and maintenance, i don't necessarily think they are better in terms of performance. They are just part of TDP. I can say for certain that my LMT straight pins were a grade A bitch to knock out last night and I don't expect getting them back in to be easy. Tried pressing them into the FSB by hand this morning and it wasn't happening. I'm confident they'll lock up nice and tight again.

    The tapered pins in my middy were a relative breeze to pop out.

    As far as parking, if I cared, I wouldn't have 3 LMT uppers in my possession right now. I'm not the kind of person that would let lack of park become an issue by neglecting the my guns, nor do I build beauty/safe queens.

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    Not saying you couldn't do it with a Colt 6920, but you can easily break the purchase of a
    LMT down into a build as uppers and lowers are availible complete and you would
    only have to purchase your lower through an FFL.
    Making acquiring your weapon more affordable over a couple of months.
    Just a thought????....but then again you could just do a "lay-a-way" on a 6920.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twodollarbill View Post
    Not saying you couldn't do it with a Colt 6920, but you can easily break the purchase of a
    LMT down into a build as uppers and lowers are availible complete and you would
    only have to purchase your lower through an FFL.
    Making acquiring your weapon more affordable over a couple of months.
    Just a thought????....but then again you could just do a "lay-a-way" on a 6920.
    That's pretty much what I did. I got a screaming deal on all of my uppers, but purchased the lowers separately from different sources to save at least 11% per gun. I still have a full LMT rifle, just cheaper. That's about the only way I can see the LMT being superior to a Colt IMHO.

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    Yes I do know it was Grant, but I also know as a vendor of LMT he is not looking to piss them off . and he my believe it is just as good or better to boot . I honestly can't say if it's as good or better ,but the majority of experts seam to be in favor of taper pins and parking under the FSB. I can say that my LMT upper works like a champ and has been great. it's when I put it side by side to by BCM that you can see the attention to detail and QC that is better on the BCM. they both work fine ,but I have more confidence in the BCM because I feel they cared enough to go that extra mile and ship pure perfection . and the BCM and Colt both use taper pins and park under the FSB so in the end IMHO that is the prefered method . and I a'm certanly willing to admit Grant knows more than I do on the subject of AR's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GONIF View Post
    I call BS on that .while they may be equal the LMT is not better in anyway shape or form.
    please dont make comments like this if you really dont have a clue what you are talking about. thanks in advance.


    my assertion has nothing to do with park under the sight base or pins.

    it has to do with the blanks that LMT uses.

    LMT uses barrel blanks from Rock creek bbls (Mike rock), that are upbored to accept the additional thickness of chrome. giving us only one poor tolerance, and no stacking.

    TDP calls for electro etching to open up 5.56 bores, then chroming them back down to 5.56 spec. Neither electro etching nor chrome lining are exact processes, giving us a stack of two poor tolerances.

    This electro-etch process dates back to vietnam era m16's, that were originally non chrome lined.

    this information has been verified by several sources, including LMT directly and barrel experts including randall rausch (ar15barrels.com).

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    I was unaware of that and would count on Rock to build a great barrel,after all he was trained by Boots Obermirer(spelling) and that old man was one of the best. in any event I have not found any of my 6 Colt rifles to be lacking in any way includeing accuracy and duribility. ther large pins and sear blocks (in 2 of them) are a drag ,but otherwise they are top notch . the fact that my 6920 and MT6400c shoot as accuratly as my LMT lead me to belive they both are top quality barrels and equal in that department . I will keep an eye on it and see if a few thousand rounds more alter my opinion of Colt or LMT.
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    Get the LMT Patrol( standard stock if you are short on cash). It will be cheaper than the 6920. I picked mine up for $1050.+tax a few months back. You could also buy an upper and lower seperate from Grant at G&R. I am putting two LMTs together this way.

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