Trump may have just lost the entire women vote

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  1. Firefly's Avatar

    Firefly said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    Well, it's not hearsay since it's the women claiming what actually happened to them. Of course, their alligations are unprovable. However, I wonder if they will be sitting next to Wanitta Broderick and Paula Jones at the final debate.
    Sensei, that is literally hearsay. They can say it all they want.

    Until they did like the Clinton women and put it on a police report or a sworn affidavit under penalty of perjury; then it is bupkis.

    It is tantamount to me saying on the news "Sensei grabbed my ass and said I was a foxy tart".

    I can say that all day long but until I can A: prove it happen or B: get it on paper and under police investigation; it aint worth nothing.

    Especially 30 years ago. The Clinton's shit trail follows them in short order plus there was a stained dress.

    Where's the beef here? It's not that I won't see it, but I can't. Nothing here.

    Get me DNA, 3rd party witnesses, and or video beyond trash talk and we'll talk some turkey.

    Until then, this is a windmill not worth tilting.

    For the record, I agree that Trump is a womanizing piece of work who gets a littke fresh at times, but he's not a rapist and there's nothing substantiated beyond talking a little blue.

    BFD.
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    Dist. Expert 26 said:
    After watching the "news" at work my thought is this: The MSM as a whole, including Faux news, wants Hillary to win. Believing that they can be subjective in their reporting on the matter is a pipe dream at this point. They know full well how many people hate her, and they're working literally 24/7 to convince enough people that she has such an overwhelming lead that they might as well stay home on election day. Those who are up in arms over this stupid video were never Trump supporters in the first place.

    Point two that I feel is being largely overlooked is just how many idiot Sanders supporters will write his name on the ballot, regardless if its legal or not. There are still pages on facebook professing that he can still win and the socialist utopia can be achieved. My hope is that said idiots either stay home entirely, or try to elect a non-candidate.
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  3. Averageman said:
    I'm in my mid fifties. Let me tell you something, fifty plus years in our culture has shown me some changes.
    My Dad and I had "The Talk" when I was 14 and the neighbor girl was pregnant, he was very relieved when I told him I "knew" it wasn't mine.
    It gets a lot more screwed up from there, but what you need to understand was that relationships then in the early-mid 70's were amazingly different than they are now.
    The look on my Fathers face after I told him that was one of relief, he handed me a beer (mind you I was 14) and told me about condoms and catching the clap in London in the 1950's while on leave.
    That I needed to abstain from sex wasn't even in the conversation, as a matter of fact he gave me some very sage advice about Women. "If you're getting some kitty, for God's sake don't tell any of your friends, keep it quiet and be discreet about it, that way you'll keep on getting some." That still applies today believe it or not.

    My point is this is the traditional view point of guys who are Trump's age and who are Womanizers. That was the way it was.
    You can't change these guys and we likely would have had the 1950's and 60's without them.
    To think that your Dad telling you to be discreet and wear a rubber and get as much as you can is wrong, well, you might want to look at having your blood tested for lot "T".
    Just don't let this stuff surprise you.

    If I might put this in perspective I was working for him at the time in construction eight tpo ten hours a day and all summer long.

    Imagine having Don Draper for your Dad....
    Last edited by Averageman; 10-12-16 at 22:24.
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    Sensei said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    And that would make a single accusation of groping/sexual assault thirty years ago equal to multiple claims of sexual assault and accusations of rape and a Presidential Impeachment?
    You're comparing Apples and Oranges, Clinton via the Impeachment process was found guilty.
    Umm, I'm not comparing anything. I'm just posting the story that is about to get wall to wall media coverage for the next 3 days or so.
    I like my rifles like my women - short, light, fast, brown, and suppressed.
  5. Averageman said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    Umm, I'm not comparing anything. I'm just posting the story that is about to get wall to wall media coverage for the next 3 days or so.
    We're good, I was just saying, WTF are the Clinton's to dig this stuff up?
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    Sensei said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Sensei, that is literally hearsay. They can say it all they want.

    Until they did like the Clinton women and put it on a police report or a sworn affidavit under penalty of perjury; then it is bupkis.

    It is tantamount to me saying on the news "Sensei grabbed my ass and said I was a foxy tart".

    I can say that all day long but until I can A: prove it happen or B: get it on paper and under police investigation; it aint worth nothing.

    Especially 30 years ago. The Clinton's shit trail follows them in short order plus there was a stained dress.

    Where's the beef here? It's not that I won't see it, but I can't. Nothing here.

    Get me DNA, 3rd party witnesses, and or video beyond trash talk and we'll talk some turkey.

    Until then, this is a windmill not worth tilting.

    For the record, I agree that Trump is a womanizing piece of work who gets a littke fresh at times, but he's not a rapist and there's nothing substantiated beyond talking a little blue.

    BFD.
    Dude, I really don't care about Trump. I'm pretty sure that none of this is changing anyone's mind on M4C. I said back in May when Trump became the presumptive nominee that his candidacy was a corpse, and I've consistently said that these media events are not going to make him "more dead."

    My interest in this is to gauge the fallout on the Congressional races. Right now it seems pretty obvious that the Dem/MSM is to get as many Republicans defending Trump as possible. Then, release a bunch of tapes and pictures linking Trump to all kinds of heinous shit (feel free to troll the liberal internet sewers for the latest rumors on future tapes). Once that is done, Dems will then point to every Republican who shook Trump's hand and label them as defenders of all Trump's transgressions.

    Now, I know that many around here are thinking that this past week's events will not effect Trump's candidacy. Personally, I could care much less. What I care about is the fact that, for some strange reason, Republican congressional candidates across the board are polling an average 4 points lower this week compared to last in snap polling since the tapes release and Trump's dust up with GOP leadership. Trump's shit is now needless putting both the House and Senate in play and there is a growing chance that we will have razor thin majorities or much worse.
    I like my rifles like my women - short, light, fast, brown, and suppressed.
  7. Averageman said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    Dude, I really don't care about Trump. I'm pretty sure that none of this is changing anyone's mind on M4C. I said back in May when Trump became the presumptive nominee that his candidacy was a corpse, and I've consistently said that these media events are not going to make him "more dead."

    My interest in this is to gauge the fallout on the Congressional races. Right now it seems pretty obvious that the Dem/MSM is to get as many Republicans defending Trump as possible. Then, release a bunch of tapes and pictures linking Trump to all kinds of heinous shit (feel free to troll the liberal internet sewers for the latest rumors on future tapes). Once that is done, Dems will then point to every Republican who shook Trump's hand and label them as defenders of all Trump's transgressions.

    Now, I know that many around here are thinking that this past week's events will not effect Trump's candidacy. Personally, I could care much less. What I care about is the fact that, for some strange reason, Republican congressional candidates across the board are polling an average 4 points lower this week compared to last in snap polling since the tapes release and Trump's dust up with GOP leadership. Trump's shit is now needless putting both the House and Senate in play and there is a growing chance that we will have razor thin majorities or much worse.
    I think the better advice for true Conservatives in the GOP would be to follow Trumps lead and slash and burn my opponent's candidacy.
    The whole idea that the Democrats can be offensives assholes and the Republicans will sit there and smile and take it are over, if your point is logic and economics, you're going to lose.
    The people want the Candidates to go Khardashian.
    It reminds me of Obama taking on Romney, Romney had him beat on logic and economics, the voters wanted drama.
    Last edited by Averageman; 10-12-16 at 22:46.
  8. Sensei's Avatar

    Sensei said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    We're good, I was just saying, WTF are the Clinton's to dig this stuff up?
    I'm just going to make a suggestion. It's more directed at Trump's campaign than you, but people around here should probably heed my advice: STOP MAKING COMPARISONS TO BILL'S MISOGYNY FROM WAY BACK WHEN IT WAS STILL SAFE FOR HIM TO USE VIAGRA. That shit was 25 years ago. It didn't work then. It's not working now. It sounds pathetic to anyone with a teenager who tries to justify their bad behavior by citing someone else's worse behavior.

    Every minute that Trump spends talking about Paula Jones is a missed minute talking about policy matters that will actually win voters. Yes, I know that you guys like it. It makes you d!ck hard. But, getting your Trump hard-on and sticking in the face of political correctness is not going to win this election.

    For those of you who doubt me, notice that Trump began destroying Hillary in the last debate with policy facts once he got past the "Bill is worse than me" crap. Remember that just 3 weeks ago he had tied Hillary by sticking to a meaningful message. The fact that the polls actually do respond to intellgent policy messages from Trump should give everyone some pause who thinks that they are all crap.
    Last edited by Sensei; 10-12-16 at 22:58.
    I like my rifles like my women - short, light, fast, brown, and suppressed.
  9. Sensei's Avatar

    Sensei said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I think the better advice for true Conservatives in the GOP would be to follow Trumps lead and slash and burn my opponent's candidacy.
    The whole idea that the Democrats can be offensives assholes and the Republicans will sit there and smile and take it are over, if your point is logic and economics, you're going to lose.
    The people want the Candidates to go Khardashian.
    It reminds me of Obama taking on Romney, Romney had him beat on logic and economics, the voters wanted drama.
    The fact that Trump managed to come back and tie Hillary with clear, concise policy speeches just 3 weeks ago tells me that you are thinking with your Trump hard-on, and not the head that is sitting above your shoulders. Feel free to stoke that orange-tipped monster in you pants if you want. Just understand there may be some serious post-orgasmic remorse if you are wrong.
    I like my rifles like my women - short, light, fast, brown, and suppressed.
  10. Firefly's Avatar

    Firefly said:
    Okay, you dont like/care about Trump. Noted.

    All that notwithstanding, Screw the Republicans. They haven't lowered my taxes, shot down Bongocare, nor restored gun rights in other states.

    They are merely a less aggravating form of Democrat and all they do is talk, posture, and beg for votes while pandering to the NASCAR Larry the Cable Guy crowd.

    Now they throw a hissy fit because John Q. told them to eff off with Trump.

    They can all rot in hell. As much as you may be less than enthused with Trump; I fcking hate the entire Republican party.

    They are still harping on fag marriage and abortion when all I really care about is a free market and liberty.

    If queers can make a 50 year marriage work, yay for em. If some spoiled girl wants an abortion despite the vast amounts of prophylaxis out there; have at it. Just don't make me pay for it and don't do something that will give you remorse 20 years on.

    These are NOT my problems.

    Getting my fat ass blown up on a bus, shot in a mall, taxed to the poorhouse, or being diminished to a bolt action .17HMR most certainly IS.

    So the Republican party can sit and spin.