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    Quote Originally Posted by tower59 View Post
    The good news, so to speak, is that over the years guidance systems have improved and the typical warhead yield has dropped. Military leaders have predicted that it is very likely that we will have a nuclear device detonated in CONUS, it's just a matter of when. Over the course of history, when have we invented a new weapon and never used it? There are several possible scenarios, including: (1) one or more "dirty" bombs that use conventional explosives to contaminate population centers with radioactive debris, (2) high-altitude burst to cause EMP effect in an attempt to disable electronics, and (3) all-out nuclear war. In the first, a relatively few number of people die in the blast, but chaos ensues, as it is a weapon of terror. An EMP attack probably warrants its own thread, but could cripple the nation if it were successful. Finally, in the third scenario, an enemy nation state would presumably target key leadership areas (Washington, Mount Weather, NORAD), nuclear facilities (ICBM farms in the midwest), and key military targets (all the major bases, especially with retaliatory nuclear capability, including sub and bomber bases).

    For someone living in a priority target area, survival would require a blast shelter (much bigger undertaking than a fallout shelter) and would also require advance notice to get in the shelter. Probably not going to be very achievable for the Average Joe, but certainly possible for Washington elites and a few in the military. Keep in mind that SLBM attack could land a missile on target in less than 10 minutes from launch- not much time to work with.

    But, much of our population does not live in an actual high priority target zone, and could likely survive easily with a proper fallout shelter. I think Cresson Kearney's text lays out the threat and how to mitigate it for the average man very well. Applying the principles of time/distance/shielding, one can develop a plan that would work in much of the country- provided that you aren't directly in a blast zone.

    Here's one of many on-line blast calculators that can help one gauge the impact of a nuclear detonation:
    http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

    Great post, thanks for the link.
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    Yeah I really see no reason for Russian to engage the USA in Nuclear war. No one wins. Millions of Russians die and millions of Americans would die. We've done nothing to stir up a Nuclear war. I think Putin is much more interested in getting Trump in as President than bombing the country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by theM90NP View Post
    Yeah I really see no reason for Russian to engage the USA in Nuclear war. No one wins. Millions of Russians die and millions of Americans would die. We've done nothing to stir up a Nuclear war. I think Putin is much more interested in getting Trump in as President than bombing the country.


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    Or we could consider that the UN is accusing Russia of war crimes in Syria and Putin is trying to look tough. Their economy is less than stellar, sanctions won't do them any favors or Putins popularity at home.


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    Yeah, I don't see nuclear way happening anytime soon. Its pointless for everyone. Only real likely situations imo are a civil war in the US. If hillary gets in, refugees come in, crime skyrockets, place goes to shit


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    Quote Originally Posted by theM90NP View Post
    Yeah, I don't see nuclear way happening anytime soon. Its pointless for everyone. Only real likely situations imo are a civil war in the US. If hillary gets in, refugees come in, crime skyrockets, place goes to shit
    And she will take our guns away so we will be defenseless. That's what she wants. This is purposeful destruction, and will be even worse than Obama thanks to her SCOTUS appointments.

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    I'm currently located between Philly & Baltimore / DC. If there is a Nuke exchange I'm done for and won't have realized it ever happened. Some things are just out of our control, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
    And she will take our guns away so we will be defenseless. That's what she wants. This is purposeful destruction, and will be even worse than Obama thanks to her SCOTUS appointments.
    She can only say "you have to hand them in" it's up to each of us individually if we decide to comply with such an order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
    And she will take our guns away so we will be defenseless. That's what she wants. This is purposeful destruction, and will be even worse than Obama thanks to her SCOTUS appointments.
    Well, the armed citizens greatly outnumber the nations military and law enforcement. In addition to that, law enforcement and military take an oath to uphold the consitution, not the nations government orders. There would be a great breakdown in law enforcement and military, those who stay with the gov and those who defect to protect the people. I don't know about you, but I never bought my guns to simply give them up when the government comes. If they come, they can take my gun once they've taken my life. I will not give up my second ammendment right until I'm dead. That's a promise. To say they will take away all of our guns as though its that easy is silly. It would be near impossible for the US government to strip our 2a ammendment. Many states would secede if this began happening.


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    A world war would get the moron voters minds away from the corruption the governments and the government employees have been responsible for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveS View Post
    A world war would get the moron voters minds away from the corruption the governments and the government employees have been responsible for.
    Oh believe me, I agree without a doubt that a civil war would result in a patriotic, toughened up, respectable nation. The pussies, the butthurts, the sjws, blm, the morons, all would perish. While this would be a complete step back, I think at the end of it we would be a few steps forward with a revised government having much less liberal ideology. Plus the whole population would become pro 2A.

    Itd be pretty interesting to see how a civil war turned out, I think a Valkyrie style military takeover would be incredible. Imagine one day the President calling our nations armed forces into the capitol building, house of reps, large cities, etc and arresting corrupt leaders without question. Bringing all corrupt members of government into cutody and reforming government before people could blink an eye. We would be able to avoid the death of many and reverse much of what the Dems have screwed up along with other corrupt politicians.


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