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Thread: MEGA ARMS / Hodge Defense Systems Wedge Lock rail, gas-block and MLOK compatibility

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    MEGA ARMS / Hodge Defense Systems Wedge Lock rail, gas-block and MLOK compatibility

    In another thread, the Next Intent adj gas block was mentioned as a possibility.

    I have the Hodge 10.75. The following pics are Next Intent gas block on a Faxon 11.5 GUNNER with mid length gas.





    An Mlok attachment is on the 45* slot. I was able to secure it with the gas block in place thanks to the recessed sides of the gas block. I was able to also uninstall and reinstall the handguard without interfering with the gas block. Both mlok nuts in their secured position were clear by a good margin.

    Clearance underneath the block is probably the best on the market. The gas block adds no thickness underneath beyond the thickness of the shoulder of the barrel.



    I did not have a carbine gas barrel on hand to fit my .625 gas block for the next test. Instead, I pulled the rail to the front edge of the barrel nut to keep alignment secure while testing the gas block clearance behind the 45* mlok slots.



    As you can see in the pic, the block barely touches the handguard interior.

    My conclusion: this gives you an adj gas block option IF using midlength gas with the 10.75 handguard.

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    So what's the advantage of going with a midlength in a 11.5?

    I was just planning on going carbine with a 11.5, adjustable gas block, and the wedge lock.

    I honestly thought midlength with a barrel shorter than 14.5 was a no go.


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    Fledge,
    Thanks for the contribution. Good to see the photos. As you show looks like it will only clear in that opened up space around the end MLOK slots, good to know. That effectively puts this adjustable gas-block on the incompatible list in the same category as the SLR Sentry 7 for most configurations. The .750" Next Intent GB would likely be worse for clearance if not the same depending on if they are are scaled up or if the .625" just have smaller bore. Did you try the 9:00 MLOK slot looking down the muzzle? That is the slot I thought would be most affected by that gas-block most but it actually looks like the shape is biased more toward the upper 45* face. The gas-block is shaped differently than I imagined it would be under the rail. Doesn't matter much if it wont fit deep inside the rail though where it would in most standard configurations. I wonder if NSZ85 found this out after the video he made, I gave him the benefit of the doubt that it fit.

    A carbine-gas barrel w/ 9" MEGA rail, a mid-length gas barrel w/ 10.75" Hodge rail and, I suppose maybe, an intermediate-length gas barrel with 11.5" Hodge rail are about the only possible configurations that the Next Intent adj GB and the SLR Sentry 7 might clear under the rail. The latter two being uncommon to non-existant.

    I am moving away from adjustable gas blocks in general and especially under this rail in preference for gas-block admission port inserts if not barrel porting itself.

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    thanks to all for the work on this thread! To update, has anyone heard or found any other adjustable gas blocks to work under this rail? I am also very interested in Jerry's post about tapping the GB7 gas block. Looking forward to reading the thread when it is made.

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    I'm sorry but the slot layout and overall styling of this rail is unacceptable.

    Look at a KAC URX 4. All the slots on both the keymod and MLOK versions are spaced evenly throughout the length of the rail on all 7 sides with no artsy fartsy retarded styling holes or other bullshit.

    What is that stupid backwards sloped angle on the front of this rail for? You could have one more picatinny slot if the front of the rail was not cut off at an angle.

    Why cant every keymod and MLok rail be laid out like a URX 4? Why is this so difficult?

    I still have not seen a solution on mounting a surefre 600 on this with an inline mount at 10:30 and 1:30 positions because there aren't enough mounting slots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    I'm sorry but the slot layout and overall styling of this rail is unacceptable.

    Look at a KAC URX 4. All the slots on both the keymod and MLOK versions are spaced evenly throughout the length of the rail on all 7 sides with no artsy fartsy retarded styling holes or other bullshit.

    What is that stupid backwards sloped angle on the front of this rail for? You could have one more picatinny slot if the front of the rail was not cut off at an angle.

    Why cant every keymod and MLok rail be laid out like a URX 4? Why is this so difficult?

    I still have not seen a solution on mounting a surefre 600 on this with an inline mount at 10:30 and 1:30 positions because there aren't enough mounting slots.
    The slope to the front is for easier access to surefire suppressor latches with flush mounted muzzle devices.

    The rail was made for a specific purpose with specific parts. It works fine. Ymmv, and you might need to choose a urx4, if it better suits your needs. I like the wedgelock/hodge because I use it exactly how it was designed to be used. Magpul light mount, surefire can, 14.5 barrel, 13.5 rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    I'm sorry but the slot layout and overall styling of this rail is unacceptable.

    Look at a KAC URX 4. All the slots on both the keymod and MLOK versions are spaced evenly throughout the length of the rail on all 7 sides with no artsy fartsy retarded styling holes or other bullshit.

    What is that stupid backwards sloped angle on the front of this rail for? You could have one more picatinny slot if the front of the rail was not cut off at an angle.

    Why cant every keymod and MLok rail be laid out like a URX 4? Why is this so difficult?

    I still have not seen a solution on mounting a surefre 600 on this with an inline mount at 10:30 and 1:30 positions because there aren't enough mounting slots.
    Yeah. I don't care about the angled front but not having more than one MLOK slot on the upper 45* faces doesn't make me happy. Why can't they have at least 2 like the Mega rails? Only thing I can figure is Mega and Hodge D agreed to it to differentiate the rails and Hodge didn't care too much because of a focus on his users using IR lasers like ATIPAL or DBAL.. Then there is definitely some headscratchers though. Only 1 MLOK slot and most 45* offset scout mounts are incompatible with the rail due to the side slope (which must be that way to achieve the thinness and gas-block fitmment)? Hodge D rail lengths match perfect with common barrel lengths but Mega's rail lengths are made to fit behind front sight bases?

    I am hoping Arisaka Defense Gen 2 offset MLOK scout mounts will have some relief on the upper edge for the Wedge Lock rails though not counting on it. Magpul aluminum offset scout mount if not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    I'm sorry but the slot layout and overall styling of this rail is unacceptable.

    Look at a KAC URX 4. All the slots on both the keymod and MLOK versions are spaced evenly throughout the length of the rail on all 7 sides with no artsy fartsy retarded styling holes or other bullshit.

    What is that stupid backwards sloped angle on the front of this rail for? You could have one more picatinny slot if the front of the rail was not cut off at an angle.

    Why cant every keymod and MLok rail be laid out like a URX 4? Why is this so difficult?

    I still have not seen a solution on mounting a surefre 600 on this with an inline mount at 10:30 and 1:30 positions because there aren't enough mounting slots.
    I use the Unity MLOK Fusion adapter at the 10:30 on a Hodge rail

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    Basically I think that if the Mega rails came in Hodge Defense lengths that it would be mo betta. Also add a true 15"

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    Anyone seen a pic of the mega 7" on a carbine with fsb?

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