DDM4/SLiM rail anti-rotation problem?

[XM15M4Guy]

Just an update:

I email DD regarding the bolt looseness and received a reply almost immediately. I was advised

DO NOT use loctite ( Although I would not think blue loctite would be an issue)

There is no torque value, Just "Hand tight".

Mr. Brown also offer to send me a label to ship the rifle back if I felt it was needed.

I'm undecided on shipping it back based on th fact I've already done as the email reply advised.
I do think that the response time from DD was excellent!

[Nocalsocal]

Nice customer service. But having no torque value is rather disturbing. Blue loctite is better than a loose handguard. Come on Daniel Defense I would think there's more to it than "hand tight "!?

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[XM15M4Guy]

Nice customer service. But having no torque value is rather disturbing. Blue loctite is better than a loose handguard. Come on Daniel Defense I would think there's more to it than "hand tight "!?

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Agreed. I have gone from feeling great about my decision to buy to being quite puzzled.

[MrTuna]

Maybe people won't agree with me but I think checking all hardware and tightening bolts and screws is just part of preventative maintenance even if it's straight from the factory. I'm definitely interested in how this goes with the DD hand guard since I am current deciding on one for a middy that's going to see hard use.

[Singlestack Wonder]

Maybe people won't agree with me but I think checking all hardware and tightening bolts and screws is just part of preventative maintenance even if it's straight from the factory. I'm definitely interested in how this goes with the DD hand guard since I am current deciding on one for a middy that's going to see hard use.

This....if the rifle is for serious use, it's up to the user to double check all of its systems before utilizing the rifle in a shtf situation.

[Iraqgunz]

Several rails being manufactured do not have a recommended torque value, so I am not sure why people are acting as of the Book of Revelations was just revealed. I use blue Loctite on almost all screws that secure rails and optics. The exception are those that use helicoils.

For years we have always recommended that the end user check his weapon and do an inspection.

[williejc]

I don't understand why DD advised against Loctite unless removing the Loctite applied part would damage something. As a novice, I'm curious.

[t15]

I don't own any of the new DD rails, but I believe the plate is aluminum. Maybe it is exactly as IG said and the plate has helicoils.

What's old is new again, pinned FSB's have always had lots of proponents on this forum and others.

[Rattler5]

I have a DD V11 and it is my only firearm. I will not be dropping it anytime soon. I know DDs are built like tanks, but I am a little bit disappointed that that one's rail shifted after so little abuse when you consider the torture test that they did with Larry Vickers.

[Rob Ski]

Guys, to make it clear, when I started using this rifle, bolts were not lose. They were all tight.
They didn't become lose from recoil either. Many rounds went down the pipe on that rifle prior drops on concrete and rail was holding up. Bolts went lose after drops only.
I have them on blue loctite now and so far I haven't noticed any shifts.