$2k too much for beginner/LPV

[WS6]

Thanks, WS6. I was initially attracted to the Mk6 because of the durability and the simple TMR-D reticle. Nothing overly busy and cluttered, nice single bright dot at 1x that I think I can adapt to quickly coming from my Aimpoints. The Khales G4B reticle was also very simple, single red dot, very bright as well, not much info on durability, but I've also not heard any problems with them failing for any reason.



Thanks, Goodtimes. Yes, the inter webs can certainly make a muck of decision making. Good advice to just purchase, learn, and shoot. It's about all some of us can do when trying to gain a little knowledge from those who can at the very least, guide us in a particular direction, which is what you fine folks have done for me. Now, dive in head first!



Thanks, F2S. I've been reading pretty thoroughly through old threads and you've been a part of most of them. I certainly appreciate and value your input. The Vortex Razor HD is high on my list. From what I've read, not many have had any complaints at all. I understand none of these optics are "perfect" but they all are very serviceable on both the civilian market and beyond, well thought out, and durable.

I understand we're splitting hairs on these two great optics, but could you please explain what you mean by "form factor" on the Mk6 and "fit and function" on the Kahles?

I don't want to speak for F2S, but I believe what he means is that the Kahles just "feels bigger" sitting on top of the gun, regardless of the actual technical size and weight. With the Kahles, I feel that this has to do with the turrets and huge (seeming) occular. The MK6 has very low-pro turrets, and just "feels" smaller sitting on top of the gun, even though they weigh nearly the same and the MK6 is less than 1/2" shorter than the Kahles. Also, the fatter main-body of the MK6 has the effect of visually shortening the optic. It just "seems less bulky". I feel identically to him regarding the MK6 and K16i though, for "form factor", to add another datapoint on that front for you.

[WS6]

I'm going to provide a counter point to most of the feedback, as I was in precisely the same situation about six months ago: experience with AR, had an Aimpoint T1, but minimal experience with optics. I was not budget constrained, but ended up with an Accupower 1-4 with BDC reticle, and spent only about 650 instead of 2k.

When I purchased, I prioritized good glass, fast reticle, true 1x mag. I don't have daylight bright reticle, great battery life, or exposed turrets. But (as others have said) ultimately, optics are very personal decisions once you get past basic functionality. I've learned some of my expectations about use were correct, some less so. So: my advice is to buy a decent quality optic and use it - so you can learn your own preferences and buy another one later.

I really like my trijicon. But I want something with more magnification, so I just bought an SWFA 3-15 to try. My plan is to upgrade both optics, probably soon - but then I can move my trij to another AR, and the swfa to my rimfire.

Point being: if I hadn't just bought one and started using it, I'd never know if my "better" optic was the right one for me. And in the remote event I ended up absolutely hating something I bought, I could sell it and be no worse than a few hundred bucks in the hole.

So I'd recommend the viper pst, the accupower, a leupold fire dot, the Steiner 1-4 - just pick based on what you expect to like, then use - learn - and buy what you find that you really want in a few months.

My $0.02...


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Don't leave the Vortex Strike Eagle out. It can be had WITH a mount for mid 300's. It also is a very decent scope for the money, and even if OP decides to dump it later, it can be dumped for a sensible amount too, since it has a no-questions-asked lifetime warranty from Vortex. I think it is THE gateway to LPV's if someone says "I'm not sure if they are for me, how do I try one for a few months to see?" It really does work and function well enough that if they don't like LPV's because of it, it's not "because they went cheap and need to buy a REAL LPV to see." No, it's no MK6, but it ain't a bottom barrel Tasco, either.

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Well, I went all in. I ordered the Mk6 with TMR-D reticle. Liberty Optics already had them on sale cheaper than anywhere else and with an additional holiday sale, took another 5% off, brought it to $1709 shipped. Mounting it to a 0 MOA Bobro QD 34mm. Found this at SWFA and a 10% sale, got it for $252 shipped. I was super happy to keep this under $2000 for the whole purchase, until I realized I forgot to add the Mk6 throw lever to the order. So, I'll call SWFA today and see if I can add this to my order with the sale price.

I look forward to getting this thing dialed in and learning something new. I appreciate everyones help and insight.

[WS6]

Well, I went all in. I ordered the Mk6 with TMR-D reticle. Liberty Optics already had them on sale cheaper than anywhere else and with an additional holiday sale, took another 5% off, brought it to $1709 shipped. Mounting it to a 0 MOA Bobro QD 34mm. Found this at SWFA and a 10% sale, got it for $252 shipped. I was super happy to keep this under $2000 for the whole purchase, until I realized I forgot to add the Mk6 throw lever to the order. So, I'll call SWFA today and see if I can add this to my order with the sale price.

I look forward to getting this thing dialed in and learning something new. I appreciate everyones help and insight.

Swfa wants more than white knight armory and some others on the throw lever. Shop it.