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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    Trump was never going to be the 45th POTUS either.
    I'll give you $100 if it passes before Jan 1, 2020. That's how confident I am it won't.

    Willing to wager anything on your end? It's just realistic bro - Trump isn't going to sign a law that the media will say "put evil silencers in the hands of everyone" etc etc.

    Saying one will wait for HPA to pass is similar to the idiots who "Wait for SHOT" every year. Poor suckers are still waiting on Hodge Defense rifles and where is that TNVC TAPS switch?
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 01-01-17 at 12:44. Reason: Increased bet to a C note
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Don't act like you're oblivious to the fact that recommending the best on M4C usually falls on deaf ears and they end up buying the model 1 sales kit rifle anyway.
    I don't think that's true.

    Maybe on TOS, but we usually have more intelligent posts here- by people who at least know something about weapons.

    Oh... look... we're in one-of-those-posts!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    ETA: HPA is never going to pass. - You heard it here first.
    ...and Trump's never going to win. BREXIT will never happen. Colombia will surrender to FARC.

    Anyway, all I really need to be happy is to get the wait time on all ATF forms down to three days.

    If HPA passes, once everyone goes can-crazy and buys up everything in sight, we'll just have more drunk people shooting (quietly) in their backyards and killing their neighbors... and then it will go away.

    My point was, even if there were some national holiday where once a year you could buy a silencer over the counter, I wouldn't waste my money on cheap, crap cans from companies that are going out of business.

    Quote Originally Posted by Furbyballer View Post
    My omega probably only has 300 rounds through it and it already has a nice healthy discoloration of a used can haha. The omega is awesome, but super hardy it is not.
    Have you seen much degradation in performance? Are you basing this on the observed... color?

    For a minute, I was considering the Saker762 for the supposed increased durability, but in reality, to even realize the difference between the two, you would have to get stupid, wreck barrels, and trash your can.

    Yee-haw. I guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    I'll give you $100 if it passes before Jan 1, 2020. That's how confident I am it won't.

    Willing to wager anything on your end? It's just realistic bro - Trump isn't going to sign a law that the media will say "put evil silencers in the hands of everyone" etc etc.

    Saying one will wait for HPA to pass is similar to the idiots who "Wait for SHOT" every year. Poor suckers are still waiting on Hodge Defense rifles and where is that TNVC TAPS switch?
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    Perhaps I'm crazy and not to hijack this thread, once HPA passes (and I'd love it to pass taking SBR's off NFA but that is probably wishful thinking on my part) I see OTC integrally suppressed handguns becoming a common thing and perhaps integrally suppressed handguns may one day become standard issue for LEO's.

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    I wouldn't buy an AAC 51T can either. I've said as much in many other threads, but while I was under the impression of the Omega costing $300 more than it can be found for it seemed like a good deal for the OP who just wants to shoot with his sons. Why do you keep bringing it up Kev? What can I say to make you feel like you've won? You obviously need that.
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    I'm not banking on it passing but def not buying anything till it either does or it dies. I have everything I need for now. But a couple more would be nice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    I see OTC integrally suppressed handguns becoming a common thing and perhaps integrally suppressed handguns may one day become standard issue for LEO's.
    Never going to happen - you heard it here first.

    The only way to get a holsterable (~10" OAL?) pistol hearing safe is to port it in front of the chamber like the Maxim 9... and once you strip that velocity you're basically removing the lethality of a pistol.

    You might as well be paintballing, bro...

    You could make a large frame G26 with a compact 9mm can on it, but that would be over 13" long.



    The whole "workman's comp" thing by silencer enthusiasts is silly. OK, we get it. You want a silencer. You probably want NODs and thermals too, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KalashniKEV View Post
    Never going to happen - you heard it here first.

    The only way to get a holsterable (~10" OAL?) pistol hearing safe is to port it in front of the chamber like the Maxim 9... and once you strip that velocity you're basically removing the lethality of a pistol.

    You might as well be paintballing, bro...

    You could make a large frame G26 with a compact 9mm can on it, but that would be over 13" long.



    The whole "workman's comp" thing by silencer enthusiasts is silly. OK, we get it. You want a silencer. You probably want NODs and thermals too, right?
    What is the barrel length of the Maxim? Has anyone checked muzzle velocities from one or is the Maxim simply a "range toy", seems silly SiCo would spend the resources to produce an integrally suppressed handgun that isn't practical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    What is the barrel length of the Maxim?
    Effectively, 0", or since we measure from the bolt face, the length of a 9mm chamber.

    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    Has anyone checked muzzle velocities from one or is the Maxim simply a "range toy", seems silly SiCo would spend the resources to produce an integrally suppressed handgun that isn't practical.
    It's a publicity stunt made to fool people without knowledge of the topic- essentially the exact-same-thing as the Amazon drone delivery stunt. It gets people talking.

    What kind of magic did you think was going on in there?

    Assume that the minimum barrel length you would want... for a service pistol... to develop the required velocity to neutralize a threat... is what?

    Some old-schoolers would say 5"

    Let's say it's 3.4" just to be silly... one or two baffles in front of the muzzle is going to make that hearing safe? Nope.

    So the remaining options are loading extreme-low-velocity stuff, or porting the barrel ahead of the chamber to achieve extreme low velocities.

    So who, exactly is asking for a service pistol with extreme low velocities, that will get you shot a couple times while whipping that big honker out? Clearing leather on a ~10" gun takes time.

    Oh... but it's quiet? Who cares? Is the guy across the room shooting back at you supposed to be set on hearing-safe/ stun-mode too???

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    Let's stick to the OP's purpose, and not vanish down any rabbit holes.

    We have other threads to discuss HPA.

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