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    Kev you didn't answer my question.

    I'm curious to see what the OPs thoughts are before any more advice can really be mentioned. The Omega is a great can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    Let's stick to the OP's purpose, and not vanish down any rabbit holes.

    We have other threads to discuss HPA.
    Sorry about that... and I hate it when people do that!

    Anyway I think the rifle can thing is discussed, as for the rimfire, simple answer is Spectre II, but this Rugged Oculus really has my interest- especially if it posts good numbers in the K-config.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Kev you didn't answer my question.
    I missed it, what is your question?

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    I'll have to look into the Oculus. I need one more .22 can. I have a Rugged Razor on a 300 BLK, and have been very pleased with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    I'll have to look into the Oculus. I need one more .22 can. I have a Rugged Razor on a 300 BLK, and have been very pleased with it.
    Give a hard look at the TBAC Takedown 22.

    I already have a Spectre II and Dead Air Mask. My local can dealer and I were shooting side by side on 22/45s with CCI SV they sound so close it's incredible. A slight nod to the Mask. The Spectre was ahead of its time. It's pretty amazing and getting cheaper as well. Its the Honda Civic of 22 cans.

    Back to the TBAC Takedown. I'm waiting on one since June but my dealer has his demo model already. He says it's quieter than the TBAC 22-L which is amazing. I've shot his 22-L and it sounded as good or better than every other can he had out - including the Mask. If he says the Takedown 22 sounds better - I'm impressed.

    At the end of the day nearly all 22 cans are pretty damn good. We're really nitpicking - but we all want the best/newest/latest/greatest, I get it.

    As for rifle cans, you guys have covered a lot.

    Personally, I like dedicated K 5.56 cans on my SBRs. SBRs are loud no matter what. I'll take the weight savings and decreased back pressure of K cans. I've got the Griffin M4SDK and I'm pleased with it but the Specwar K would be my choice due to Griffins owners being....odd.

    Sandman S and L for me as well. They'll go on a 308 AR and 6.5CM bolt gun once approved. I chose them based on the mount and tone when demo-ing a bunch of cans with my dealer.

    Having he ability to shoot cans before purchase is a HUGE benefit.

    Lots of great options out there.

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    Thank you all for the replies and Happy New Year.

    I am grateful for the detail of feedback and the quality of members that chimed in. It was a pleasure to read through today.

    It is a bummer the DD MK18 is overgassed, it looks and feels great and I expected it to be a solid build from DD. I had read a couple items of gas port size concerns, you all backing that up makes it a no go. I want something turn-key for the SBR, I can fiddle with my other rifles, I want this one to run 100%.

    I will look at getting a BCM 11.5" complete rifle ordered from a reputable dealer that has them in stock. The SIONICS content is interesting, I may give that another day of checking out.

    Omega will be the can, I'll go with the big one, just because, and if that 300 upper makes it to my house someday.

    Spectre II will go on the 15-22. I appreciate the 10-22 comment, we have a couple of those in the stable, none threaded, and the 15-22 looks like it will be a blast with a can in the yard. If it was just me I'd probably land a high dollar bolt action .22lr to mess around with a can, sitting in the rocking chair on the porch.

    Again many thanks, I will get the ball rolling on procurement and update the thread as items show up next fall.

    Back to my regularly scheduled reading.

    J.

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    I bought a DD 10.3 barrel. It's not over gassed but I keep hearing stories of the full build guns being over bored.

    Lotta good options.

    PB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I bought a DD 10.3 barrel. It's not over gassed but I keep hearing stories of the full build guns being over bored.

    Lotta good options.

    PB
    What was the port size?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    What was the port size?
    I never measured it. But I've run over gassed guns before. This gun feels great. No over pressure signs.

    I wish most of my SBR's had smaller ports when I run Suppressors but this is no worse than my RGP SIONICS.

    I didn't buy the full gun. Only the barrel I wonder if that matters.

    PB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I bought a DD 10.3 barrel. It's not over gassed but I keep hearing stories of the full build guns being over bored.

    Lotta good options.

    PB
    I bought a MK18 factory gun and didn't know it was overgassed till I read it here. I built my 11.5" and used a BCM barrel after reading about the gas problem. It's just as gassy as the MK18. The MK18's ejection is different though, and I think that's the bigger complaint other than gas to face. One thing I can say about my MK18, V5, and sbr build is that they've never given me a malfunction. I shoot the SBR's and rifles about twice a month, I have to justify my gun club membership. OP, I think the MK18 is a fantastic rifle and is fun to shoot. These guys give great info, and imo, the ejection pattern is the "problem" with the MK18. Mine ejects at 330 unsuppressed and damn near 130 suppressed. In my experience, all DI ar15's will bring tears to the eyes if shot suppressed in quick enough succession.

    I'm running a Surefire 556 RC2 currently and plan on adding a Rugged Surge for a 30cal suppressor. No problems at all with the surefire, sounds great, more compact than a 30cal can, and mounts up SOLID. I own a Dead Air Mask (.22) and it brings smiles when friends shoot using it. It's one of the shorter .22 cans, it's made of titanium (tube) and stainless steel (baffles and end caps), awesome. I knew after taking it home and shooting it there would be no need to buy another .22 can until those guys at Rugged made the Oculus. That one should be in the running for you. A modular .22 can made of all Stainless?!

    You're in a great place, it is FUN shopping for this stuff!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfAGunn View Post
    I bought a MK18 factory gun and didn't know it was overgassed till I read it here. I built my 11.5" and used a BCM barrel after reading about the gas problem. It's just as gassy as the MK18. The MK18's ejection is different though, and I think that's the bigger complaint other than gas to face. One thing I can say about my MK18, V5, and sbr build is that they've never given me a malfunction. I shoot the SBR's and rifles about twice a month, I have to justify my gun club membership. OP, I think the MK18 is a fantastic rifle and is fun to shoot. These guys give great info, and imo, the ejection pattern is the "problem" with the MK18. Mine ejects at 330 unsuppressed and damn near 130 suppressed. In my experience, all DI ar15's will bring tears to the eyes if shot suppressed in quick enough succession.

    I'm running a Surefire 556 RC2 currently and plan on adding a Rugged Surge for a 30cal suppressor. No problems at all with the surefire, sounds great, more compact than a 30cal can, and mounts up SOLID. I own a Dead Air Mask (.22) and it brings smiles when friends shoot using it. It's one of the shorter .22 cans, it's made of titanium (tube) and stainless steel (baffles and end caps), awesome. I knew after taking it home and shooting it there would be no need to buy another .22 can until those guys at Rugged made the Oculus. That one should be in the running for you. A modular .22 can made of all Stainless?!

    You're in a great place, it is FUN shopping for this stuff!!
    Sonofagun,

    The BRT port insert is what you seek. Even with the pinned GB on your mk18 it's an easy install. .060 or. 062 if your dedicated suppressed would work well from my research.

    I have a 060 port for one of my mk18s. Just haven't installed it yet.
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