What is your opinion on the Russian Influence on the 2016 Presidential Election?

I wonder why they didn't protest outside Obama's vacation homes in Hawaii and the Hamptons like they did outside the Bush ranch? It's a real puzzler, that.

Originally Posted by Business_Casual

I wonder why they didn't protest outside Obama's vacation homes in Hawaii and the Hamptons like they did outside the Bush ranch? It's a real puzzler, that.

Uh, maybe because Obama didn't start the war?

The popular narrative is that Obama has been doing his best to get us out.

Personally, I don't think he's been doing a very good job of it, and before you ask what experience I have to make such a statement, I don't have any experience as leader of a Nation, all I have is a very small modicum of common sense, good genes and a healthy sense of skepticism.

Originally Posted by 26 Inf

Uh, maybe because Obama didn't start the war?

The popular narrative is that Obama has been doing his best to get us out.

Personally, I don't think he's been doing a very good job of it, and before you ask what experience I have to make such a statement, I don't have any experience as leader of a Nation, all I have is a very small modicum of common sense, good genes and a healthy sense of skepticism.

Thank you very much, have a wonderful day.

Thanks, I hope to, although we are looking at getting a pretty good winter storm moving in this afternoon. The weather guessers have me worried enough that I stocked up with gas for the generator and tested my generator to house connection yesterday.

Originally Posted by 26 Inf

Uh, maybe because Obama didn't start the war?

The popular narrative is that Obama has been doing his best to get us out.

Personally, I don't think he's been doing a very good job of it, and before you ask what experience I have to make such a statement, I don't have any experience as leader of a Nation, all I have is a very small modicum of common sense, good genes and a healthy sense of skepticism.

He didn't get us involved in the war with Syria? He didn't get us back to a cold war posture with Russia as a result?

And Libya? The rest of the Arab Spring mess he meddled in?

Meanwhile, the response to hacked emails is leaked CIA outsourced hit piece from a former MI6 guy. Now that the information in the Trump dossier, what can be quickly checked, is wrong and about everything else is unknowable but it being taken seriously because 'it's the seriousness of the charges, not the vailidity of the evidence' while the MI6 guy is some kind of JAMES Bond and Jack Ryan MessiahI6, so it all must be true. Like FIFA was some kind of criminal mastermind scheme.

And what they hell are you guys arguing over?

The oddest thing is that Trump may be the only clean actor in all this. The CIA, Russians, the DNC, the MSM all have done the dirty here, Trump is the only one with clean hands- but he can't stop running his mouth long enough defend himself.

Originally Posted by soulezoo

And Libya? The rest of the Arab Spring mess he meddled in?

Steyr and Soul

Okay, we've been messing with the middle-east in terms of trying to change regimes, since, oh Eisenhower. For sure, IMO, the last two presidents, spanning and period of 16 years have made a mess of it. I get your point and I'm not arguing it.

The question that I answered was - why weren't they protesting at Obama's vacation retreat - based on it's apparent follow-on to Steyr's tirade, I answered as I did.

Truth is THE POPULAR narrative is that Obama was trying to get us out. If you weren't so busy trying to count coup on me you could discern by the rest that I didn't think he had done a good job.

Later, I got work to do.

if someone wants to use the kids angle Trump has kids

blame war on bush and tries to say obama is trying to get us out of bushes mess ?
obama has been in war his whole time ?
bombed at least 7 countries bush only 4 ! OUCH so almost 2x as many countries yeah that is getting us out !
over 26,000 bombs in 2016 alone obama dropped more bombs than bush and got us into more wars not out

and now Trump is dangerous hahaahhhahaha

Since Russia is in the news and this thread is about Russia: The Manchurian Candidate, dispatched one of his senate staff to Europe to personally retrieve the 32 page report on Trump. What a piece of shit.

He and AmnestyGraham are two of the weakest link in the “R” majority in the senate.

British article:

From there, McCain dispatched a 'trusted emissary' who flew across the Atlantic to meet the source of the documents at an airport that the Guardian did not name.

The aide was instructed to look for a man with a copy of the Financial Times and that's how the individuals met, with the source taking McCain's emissary back to his house and giving the American a copy of the documents.

Within 24 hours, the dossier was in Washington, though the contents of the file couldn't be verified without an investigation.

McCain, the Guardian said, was worried that his actions might be interpreted as revenge for some of the controversial comments Trump made about him – such as knocking the fact that the longtime senator had been a prisoner of war.

However, McCain decided to hand over the documents to FBI Director James Comey on December 9.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-ex-spy.html